@olb31 said:
Galarraga and baines are a decent comaprison hitting wise. both were very good.
By OPS+ neither was in the top 350. below the likes of Hanley Ramirez, Kevin Youkilis, Jay Buhner, and Bobby Murcer, to pick four more or less at random. 20% above average doesn't scream "very good". Both are somewhere around the 80th percentile of players with 3000 PA. If we say "Very Good" is approximately top 10%, FWIW, we draw the line somewhere Kent Hrbek and Bob Watson. 5% would be Will and Jack Clark.
The stat guys are going to argue that he had his best years in hitters parks and still isn't a good enough hitter.
Anyone with a lifetime .288 BA to go along with a .500 SLG would be ok with me. Walks to sluggers are over rated in my book. He was primarily a #4 or #5 hitter in the lineup, he was there to drive in runs and not take walks.
I didn't see him play much, but heard he was a great fielder too.
Seems that he would fall a bit short of the HOF?
A slightly higher peak, but ultimately a lot like Baines.
Yes, with Galarraga a much better fielder, by what I have heard. Baines didn't play much in the field after his first 7 seasons.
I suppose. It doesn't take much to be a better fielder than Baines. Galarraga was a below average fielder at the easiest position.
I had always heard he was a good fielder, didn't they call him "the big cat" because he was so smooth? He did win a couple of GG, so somebody must have thought he was good.
BTW I don't care either way, my only point is he was able to play a position and Baines (apparently) was a DH for most of his career.
I wouldn't put either in the HOF, but if I had to put one of the two in, it would be Galarragah.
Baines getting in doesn't make any sense to me.
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By OPS+ neither was in the top 350. below the likes of Hanley Ramirez, Kevin Youkilis, Jay Buhner, and Bobby Murcer, to pick four more or less at random. 20% above average doesn't scream "very good". Both are somewhere around the 80th percentile of players with 3000 PA. If we say "Very Good" is approximately top 10%, FWIW, we draw the line somewhere Kent Hrbek and Bob Watson. 5% would be Will and Jack Clark.
I had always heard he was a good fielder, didn't they call him "the big cat" because he was so smooth? He did win a couple of GG, so somebody must have thought he was good.
BTW I don't care either way, my only point is he was able to play a position and Baines (apparently) was a DH for most of his career.
I wouldn't put either in the HOF, but if I had to put one of the two in, it would be Galarragah.
Baines getting in doesn't make any sense to me.