Urban Meyer calls his assistant coaches losers
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Things are getting ugly in Jacksonville, and there's a report that Urban Meyer called his assistant coaches losers.
Urban Meyer to Assistants: I'm a Winner and You're All Losers
Urban Meyer's Jacksonville Jaguars tenure always seemed destined for trouble and the early returns have not been impressive. There's the 2-10 record, which to be fair, was expected considering the roster and trying to let Trevor Lawrence acclimate to things on the fly. Then there's the off-field stuff, which involved some light lap-grinding and a subsequent apology. And the wild college football coaching carousel reigniting speculation that where Meyer would really like to excel is on Saturdays. These are the baked-in things that come with hiring such a personality and the Jags organization is getting a heaping holiday helping of it all, ahead of schedule.
NFL.com's Tom Pelissero reports that things have come to a head over the past few weeks to the point there's a chance Meyer will be one and done in Jacksonville. Sources tell Pelissero that there's been major frustration with the head coach's most recent strategy of shifting the blame elsewhere. He reports that, just since Thanksgiving or so:
Receiver Marvin Jones -- one of the locker room's most respected and mild-mannered veterans -- became so angry with Meyer's public and private criticism of the receiver group that he left the facility until other staff members convinced him to come back and had a heated argument with Meyer during practice.
During a staff meeting, Meyer delivered a biting message that he's a winner and his assistant coaches are losers, according to several people informed of the contents of the meeting, challenging each coach individually to explain when they've ever won and forcing them to defend their résumés.
Contrary to his public statements that it was injury-related, Meyer ordered Robinson's benching after an opening-drive fumble in last week's 37-7 road loss to the Rams, then had running backs coach Bernie Parmalee stop Robinson from re-entering the game, insisting Carlos Hyde (who played for Meyer at Ohio State) stay in. Only after Lawrence questioned Meyer on the sideline about Robinson's absence was Robinson allowed to return late in the second quarter. (Speaking to reporters this week, Lawrence said: "Bottom line is James is one of our best players and he's got to be on the field and we addressed it, and I feel like we're in a good spot and the whole team, we're good.")
That second bullet point ... c'mon now. Far be it for me to speculate on the sources here but once you take things up to 11 in the Getting Personal Dept. in front of the whole team, it can't be a surprise when the details of such an incident end up in print painting you as the problem.
At this point it's worth wondering if things would look any different if Meyer were trying to expedite the end of this relationship. Not saying that's the plan. Just that this is what such a plan could look like.
There's no sign owner Shad Khan is planning to change course here. There is, however, a breaking point. Whether that's already been reached or not remains to be seen. One thing we can all agree on is that, right now, it doesn't seem like the vibe down in Jacksonville is particularly chill.
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At a minimum, I expect that Meyer and the Jaguars will be mutually parting ways at some point before next season.
I knew this would boil over, Meyer can't handle losing, it drives him absolutely crazy to lose.
I couldn't find the exact details to Meyer's contract, just a quote from the Jags owner saying Meyer and GM Trent Baalke are both aligned contractually "for a long time." It was rumored that he was getting paid in the 9-12M/yr range, if they dump him after one season that will likely be the worst coaching hire in sports history,IMO.
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This type of thing cracks me up. You got a guy like Meyer who by all rights is a very successful and I’m sure intelligent person but doesn’t have clue #1 how to supervise guys and get the most out of them by treating them well and with respect.
This goes down the pipe in all areas of work. I saw it at the Sheriffs department and I see it at my current job.
When I was a sergeant which is a mid line supervisor position I knew I had to have my guys backs and I treated them like brothers and sisters and I got the absolute most out of them. I used to hear other sergeants complain about their guys and I told them 99% of the time the problem is how you interact and treat them. Would you break a sweat for a lazy, unorganized and condescending jerk? Or would you do the best you could for a person who had your back, treated you with respect and offered to help you do your job better?
Ofcourse there is the incompetent side of things and it never ceases to amaze me how many “Bosses” are 100% incompetent. The NFL is a business and Meyer isn’t doing himself any favors adding disrespect to the incompetent job he is doing so far.
Urban Meyer is incompetent, and he treats his coaches like garbage, I can just imagine how he treats his players at practice.
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Overview
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.
Symptoms
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:
Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:
Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZER
And now a live look at Urban Meyer, speaking to his coaching staff....
This story is hot, it's everywhere, all the time. It's going to be interesting to see how this story unfolds over the coming days.
Urban searching for his cell phone.
Man, this situation sure is heating up fast, the Losergate scandal is on fire!
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I don't know whether to like this or not. In the days of "expression by hashtag", he chose to let us know that he's not distracted but was really just plugging a sponsor.
Yeah
People may be reading between the lines or reading something into it
I’m going with the latter.
Maybe they are.
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Must say
Timing is spot on
Would you, as an advertiser, release that wording with what’s in the news? I wouldn’t.
TL won’t get yelled at tomorrow, he’s already hearing about it now.
Praise in public
Criticize in private.
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Sounds like he's good at blaming others for his shortcomings. He may be a winner at the college level but he's won or done nothing at the pro level and has yet to even demonstrate he has the qualifications to do so.
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I would imagine Meyers contract is guaranteed. If so, why would he mutually agree to part ways. I would make them fire me so I could still collect the full salary. I would think that if there was a mutual agreement to leave, Meyer would be leaving some cash on the table to do so.
Kind of like how Dustin Pedroia "rehabbed" for 3 years even though he knew he was never getting back to MLB full time.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
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Because these contracts have safety valves for both sides. Besides being fully guaranteed, there are probably morality and standards clauses or some such that they could get him on if they really wanted to. Meaning they could press back and he doesn't just get to collect a check every year. So in that case an arrangement is in everyone's best interest.
source, NBC Sports
Before Jaguars owner Shad Khan issued a statement strongly suggesting that he won’t be firing coach Urban Meyer, rumors and speculation were building as to whether Khan would try to fire Meyer “for cause.” It’s still a possibility.
While Khan may hope that Meyer will quit (and in turn waive his right to ongoing pay) or may want to negotiate a middle-ground severance package, Khan could still take an aggressive position, firing Meyer for cause, refusing to pay him, and sitting back and waiting for Meyer to fight it.
Fighting it, based on the language teams conventionally use in these agreements, means having the Commissioner resolve it. That’s a stacked deck in favor of the team, especially since (in this specific case) firing Meyer now means not taking Meyer to London next week for one of two NFL games to be played there this year. Although the NFL craves more media attention in England, this isn’t the kind of media attention the league covets, anywhere. If the Jaguars fire Meyer, the NFL avoids the potential embarrassments and complications arising from his time in and around Trafalgar Square.
A “for cause” firing can happen if the coach breaches a material provision of his contract, and the coaching contracts typically used by NFL teams include a “Good Moral Character” clause.
“At all times during the term of this Agreement, whether in the performance of his duties and responsibilities under this Agreement or otherwise, Coach shall conduct himself in accordance with the NFL and Club Personal Conduct Policies, high standards of honesty, morality and good conduct and shall refrain from taking any actions which could be construed as detrimental to the best interests of Club or the NFL,” a comparable contract obtained by PFT explains. “This shall include, but not be limited to, insubordination, drunkenness, any personal conduct on or off the job which could bring disgrace on or discredit to Club, the NFL or both. Coach shall conduct himself with regard to public conventions and morals, and shall not gamble or bet illegally or excessively or gamble at all on any football game or team sport, shall not use intoxicants or stimulants to excess or frequent places or associate with persons of questionable character, shall abide by all standards set forth by Club regarding appearance and standards of workmanship, shall not participate in any activity in violation of the NFL rules, constitution or bylaws, and shall not do or commit any act or thing which would tend to bring him, Club or the NFL into public hatred, contempt, scorn or ridicule, or that could shock or offend the community or ridicule public morals or decency or prejudice the NFL or Club or professional football generally.”
It’s vague. It’s broad. And it’s ultimately decided by the Commissioner, who is employed by Khan and his 31 partners.
The stakes would nevertheless be high. The general sense in league circles is that Meyer is making $10 million per year. The number of years of the deal, and more importantly the number of years that are fully guaranteed, could make this a problem costing as much as $50 million or $60 million, minus what he has earned so far this year.
Khan’s assessment of the broader risks and rewards should include the benefit to the organization of making a change now, the possibility that he’ll resign at some point, and the chances that he’ll do something else that would make a case for a for-cause firing even stronger. Khan also would have to be willing to set aside his own pride and ego and admit that he made a serious mistake, something he may not be inclined to do.
Regardless of where things go from here, it feels much more like the beginning of the end than the end of the beginning. The team already was 0-4 before Meyer’s misadventures in Ohio. Recent events won’t make it any easier to stop a historic losing streak, which currently is at 19 games and counting.
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