@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Jon, will you be open to label suggestions as Fred "sometimes" was?
I was able to convince Fred on a few, and a few he labeled a little less than I would have liked.
One big one was when Fred agreed that my Sacagawea was indeed "Struck Thru Twine" and labeled the mint error as such.
So here would be a very similar situation, the coin below was obviously "Struck Thru Twine" and hypothetically if I sent this coin in as a crossover, would I get the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label the coin deserves? Side note: My guess it will not get the lofty MS67 at PCGS
Hypothetically it could also have been struck through a Earthworm
I doubt having the word Twine on the label makes it any more valuable of a strike through error.
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@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Jon, will you be open to label suggestions as Fred "sometimes" was?
I was able to convince Fred on a few, and a few he labeled a little less than I would have liked.
One big one was when Fred agreed that my Sacagawea was indeed "Struck Thru Twine" and labeled the mint error as such.
So here would be a very similar situation, the coin below was obviously "Struck Thru Twine" and hypothetically if I sent this coin in as a crossover, would I get the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label the coin deserves? Side note: My guess it will not get the lofty MS67 at PCGS
Hypothetically it could also have been struck through a Earthworm
I doubt having the word Twine on the label makes it any more valuable of a strike through error.
It actually does make a big difference to some to have as accurate descriptions as possible and unique struck thrus are super cool IMO.
“It actually does make a big difference to some to have as accurate descriptions as possible and unique struck thrus are super cool IMO.”
I have to agree with Chris (CTF Errors) on this one!
BOTH PCGS and NGC need to do a better job describing struck thru’s.
There!
I said it😳
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“PCGS has the final "veto power" over any attributions I make.”
ErrorsOnCoins said:
“Sounds like PCGS wants to double check any new attributions to be 100% sure.”
I was spoiled for 20 years. I was able to drive to Fred’s office, do business and while I was there, Fred would write up my walk thru mint error submission ( like when he authenticated my gold 1900 Indian Head Cent). Then I would drive to PCGS and walk it thru. In some cases I would select the 2 day option or 5 day option.
Sounds like ( no fault on Jon’s part ofcourse) that PCGS is not able to handle walk thru and express mint error submission invoices anymore unless they are at a coin show to receive them. Otherwise obviously there are delays now, using Jon in Florida. It would still be nice to have the option to send some to PCGS, if they can figure this out.
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@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Jon, will you be open to label suggestions as Fred "sometimes" was?
I was able to convince Fred on a few, and a few he labeled a little less than I would have liked.
One big one was when Fred agreed that my Sacagawea was indeed "Struck Thru Twine" and labeled the mint error as such.
So here would be a very similar situation, the coin below was obviously "Struck Thru Twine" and hypothetically if I sent this coin in as a crossover, would I get the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label the coin deserves? Side note: My guess it will not get the lofty MS67 at PCGS
Hypothetically it could also have been struck through a Earthworm
I doubt having the word Twine on the label makes it any more valuable of a strike through error.
It actually does make a big difference to some to have as accurate descriptions as possible and unique struck thrus are super cool IMO.
Yes, whenever possible, the actual description of the strike thru "maker" (cloth, string, plastic, etc) on the PCGS label is the way to go. The more information on a label the better, as it benefits both collectors and dealers, and simply makes the coin more interesting to the owner.
We all love to know "what exactly" caused or makes up a particular error, and the generic term "strike thru" is a last resort when no direct cause can be determined.
I agree with Jon's statements above - if we're 98.5% certain it's struck thru
a specific item, PCGS will note it - if not, then 'struck thru' will have to suffice.
And I just realized I have to stop saying 'we', and say 'Jon' !
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@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Fred, LOL, so the threshold is 98.5%.
And I thank you very much for the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label on that Sac. I sold it shortly thereafter
Exactly, having such a precise description is a benefit to everyone involved, and I think Fred has always done a solid job getting descriptions accurate and precise. Putting a generic description is always just a last resort when it cannot be determined with certainty.
When I sell coins, I delete the images which I properly shouldn't. My computer hard drive crashed recently so I did lose some unbacked up info and photos.
I know PCGS has a true view but I do not know the cert number without doing some deep digging. Zions is great at research, maybe he can find the trueview and convince me more on the following of pedigrees.
When I sell coins, I delete the images which I properly shouldn't. My computer hard drive crashed recently so I did lose some unbacked up info and photos.
I know PCGS has a true view but I do not know the cert number without doing some deep digging. Zions is great at research, maybe he can find the trueview and convince me more on the following of pedigrees.
Very nice, thanks for the link. The eye-appeal is excellent!
Sullivan is AN AWESOME Error Coin Dealer !!! He is super knowledgeable. I have been adding Error Coinage to my wayward& meandering error coin archive for Five plus Decades. I have done biz with 99% of all the heavy error hobby hitters, most transactions back then occurred via long distance charges or just trust. Jon has helped me expand my collection as he is sourcing epic, unique inventory. Any one on the planet who collects errors should refresh Sullivan's site, often. You might save big money on achieving your desires by buying direct, and not 48 hours later for 2x to 3x or 4x or more admission. Happy Friday !!! Happy Shopping !!!
Way kewl! A two-sided strike through that wrapped around the edge during the strike!
Would that make it a three-sided strike through?
TD
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@LindyS said:
Sullivan is AN AWESOME Error Coin Dealer !!! He is super knowledgeable. I have been adding Error Coinage to my wayward& meandering error coin archive for Five plus Decades. I have done biz with 99% of all the heavy error hobby hitters, most transactions back then occurred via long distance charges or just trust. Jon has helped me expand my collection as he is sourcing epic, unique inventory. Any one on the planet who collects errors should refresh Sullivan's site, often. You might save big money on achieving your desires by buying direct, and not 48 hours later for 2x to 3x or 4x or more admission. Happy Friday !!! Happy Shopping !!!
Thank you Lindy, always enjoy talking errors with you!
@Srivano Nice double-sided strike through, and through string most likely. It appears to have the fibers and pattern of some sort of string. It could most likely be written that way if submitted to PCGS, although an in-person examination would be needed to confirm.
Do you think it would be provable for that 1965 half dollar?
I'd have to see it in person to say for sure, and wouldn't want to give a description based on a photo.
Notable to hear that you'd have to see it in person & happy to hear that you've taken a place in PCGS history. Does that mean that a submission travels from Ohio to California, to Florida and back to California? Current turn around times prevent many from submitting as it is. If so, seems like an unreasonable amount of time to grade.
@younique said:
Notable to hear that you'd have to see it in person & happy to hear that you've taken a place in PCGS history. Does that mean that a submission travels from Ohio to California, to Florida and back to California? Current turn around times prevent many from submitting as it is. If so, seems like an unreasonable amount of time to grade.
@younique Although I am not the person to ask about turnaround times, I don't think it makes much if any difference on turnaround times as the process by which I examine the coins is expeditious.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Jon, will you be open to label suggestions as Fred "sometimes" was?
I was able to convince Fred on a few, and a few he labeled a little less than I would have liked.
One big one was when Fred agreed that my Sacagawea was indeed "Struck Thru Twine" and labeled the mint error as such.
So here would be a very similar situation, the coin below was obviously "Struck Thru Twine" and hypothetically if I sent this coin in as a crossover, would I get the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label the coin deserves? Side note: My guess it will not get the lofty MS67 at PCGS
Wasn't that coin found in a 1965 Special Mint Set? So shouldn't it be labeled SMS or SP?
Congrats to Jon on being PCGS's new error attributor, and congrats to PCGS for figuring out that using consultants not based in southern California might be a good idea.
So if you were faced with the same situation that Fred was where he agreed it was "Struck Thru Twine", if you also agreed, you would write it up "Struck Thru Twine". That's great. I know this is a big deal for Chris and could get more coins for PCGS (with TrueViews)!
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
One big one was when Fred agreed that my Sacagawea was indeed "Struck Thru Twine" and labeled the mint error as such.<
If it was provable to be through string, yes.
It is provable that it is a struck thru.
NGC uses the word struck thru for most all their coins that are struck thru with the exception of struck thru cloth.
The reason I believe this coin is struck thru twine and not string or rope is the frayed fibers coming off the strike thru. Rope and string have a tight weave without a lot of excess fibers. Twine on the other hand is string or ropelike but throws off quite a bit of excess fibers.
IMO there is a HUGE difference in the label "struck thru" (could be anything even a small amount of grease) as oppose the very descriptive term "struck thru twine"
For the time being, I will probably leave the coin in this holder it is in and may show the coin to you in person at some future show for you opinion. Will you be at the next Long Beach Show?
I think anyone viewing the coin can deduce it was struck thru some sort of string. I don't think it's necessary for the grader to use that level of granularity on the label.
Yes, Jon, is very knowledgeable in his new position. Met the gentleman at the recent ANA Show in Chicago. I showed him my newly found "dual Strike throughs", in which were raw at the time.
Here they are now certified. However, by the, "across the street", fellows. lol
Jon, if you are out there? Remember me?
Discussing these with you? I can totally understand if you don't, sir.
Thank You.
001.
002.
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@joeykoins said:
Yes, Jon, is very knowledgeable in his new position. Met the gentleman at the recent ANA Show in Chicago. I showed him my newly found "dual Strike throughs", in which were raw at the time.
Here they are now certified. However, by the, "across the street", fellows. lol
Jon, if you are out there? Remember me?
Discussing these with you? I can totally understand if you don't, sir.
Thank You.
I do recall the coins I think--nice to meet you at the show, and appreciate the kind words.
@joeykoins said:
Yes, Jon, is very knowledgeable in his new position. Met the gentleman at the recent ANA Show in Chicago. I showed him my newly found "dual Strike throughs", in which were raw at the time.
Here they are now certified. However, by the, "across the street", fellows. lol
Jon, if you are out there? Remember me?
Discussing these with you? I can totally understand if you don't, sir.
Thank You.
I do recall the coins I think--nice to meet you at the show, and appreciate the kind words.
Awesome, thanks for replying.
Maybe, next Big Show in Chicago, I'll show off my 2 Unique Gems, personally?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
All the grading services have a duty of trust to authenticate, grade, and accurately attribute the coins customers send them, and that's what I try to do with PCGS as attributer and authenticator. Fred Weinberg did a fantastic job for decades, and I am honored to fill the role he had as PCGS attributer.
I wanted to give an update on this since I've done most of the mint error attribution for PCGS since 2022, that as of about march of 2026, I no longer do the mint error attribution and authentication for PCGS. For any questions about the PCGS mint error service, just reach out to PCGS customer service. Thanks, Jon Sullivan
In my experience, people who know error coins make the best Authenticators, because of their attention to detail and understanding of the minting process.
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Tom, I agree – I said 50 years ago that my knowledge of the minting process and how error coins are minted, enabled me to look at gold coins at that time and say “that wasn’t struck at the US mint“. It enabled me to look at a gold coin and fairly easily know if it was fake – and there were many of them around.
It was very helpful when I was traveling to Europe, and of course coin shows here -
looking at and determining authenticity of gold coins through the lens of the minting process.
Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
@FredWeinberg said:
Tom, I agree – I said 50 years ago that my knowledge of the minting process and how error coins are minted, enabled me to look at gold coins at that time and say “that wasn’t struck at the US mint“. It enabled me to look at a gold coin and fairly easily know if it was fake – and there were many of them around.
It was very helpful when I was traveling to Europe, and of course coin shows here -
looking at and determining authenticity of gold coins through the lens of the minting process.
Every serious coin collector should study the minting process and mint errors.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@Coin Finder said:
Sorry to hear that Jon, you did a great job. Anything you can tell us about your departure?
Thanks! And nothing to add other than I enjoyed the work of authenticating and attributing errors for PCGS during my time working for them. It's important to get attributions correct and weed out counterfeits, so I'm glad to have been involved in it.
@Coin Finder said:
Sorry to hear that Jon, you did a great job. Anything you can tell us about your departure?
Thanks! And nothing to add other than I enjoyed the work of authenticating and attributing errors for PCGS during my time working for them. It's important to get attributions correct and weed out counterfeits, so I'm glad to have been involved in it.
Jon is correct. There are many counterfeits. Joe Cronin’s 4th edition of his book is coming out and is loaded with material on fake errors. A must read!
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@SullivanNumismatics said:
I wanted to give an update on this since I've done most of the mint error attribution for PCGS since 2022, that as of about march of 2026, I no longer do the mint error attribution and authentication for PCGS. For any questions about the PCGS mint error service, just reach out to PCGS customer service. Thanks, Jon Sullivan
@CaptHenway said:
In my experience, people who know error coins make the best Authenticators, because of their attention to detail and understanding of the minting process.
It is certainly true--knowledge of the minting process and errors is so crucially important in detecting counterfeits. If you know how coins are made, "how they aren't" (counterfeits) are easier to detect.
@oih82w8 said:
Congratulations! Now, if a knowledgeable Variety Attribution specialist can be brought into the fold.
Got any 1922 Cents??? 😁
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I’m doing just fine. There’s enough business for everyone.😉
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@SullivanNumismatics said:
I wanted to give an update on this since I've done most of the mint error attribution for PCGS since 2022, that as of about march of 2026, I no longer do the mint error attribution and authentication for PCGS. For any questions about the PCGS mint error service, just reach out to PCGS customer service. Thanks, Jon Sullivan
It will be interesting to see how PCGS moves forward authenticating and certifying mint errors…
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@SullivanNumismatics said:
I wanted to give an update on this since I've done most of the mint error attribution for PCGS since 2022, that as of about march of 2026, I no longer do the mint error attribution and authentication for PCGS. For any questions about the PCGS mint error service, just reach out to PCGS customer service. Thanks, Jon Sullivan
It will be interesting to see how PCGS moves forward authenticating and certifying mint errors…
@Mr Lindy said:
Mike Byers is Number 1 Shenanigans Mint Error Dealer, who's still active.
Then there is:
Lonesome John was #1 Shenanigans Mint Error Dealer of all time who had long since retired & much later RIP.
From talking to LJ over the long distance phone and in person in early 1980's I have always assumed LJ was getting Mint Errors from San Fancisco & Denver & Philly that were both made to order for him or were riddled out mis shaped naturals that were spirited out. This was due to fact that he advertised in print numismatic media in early and mid 1970's seeking errors to purchase. He wanted errors and then the errors found him.
Then #1 for me is Fred Weinberg who has happily retired & is living the dream.
Most of my exotic error coins came from Fred.
I always received great errors from Fred at affordable prices.
Luckily for me I buy & hold so most everything I bought last 47 years I still have.
Lindy, I always enjoyed our phone conversations, the few times we met at a show in Colorado, and it was always a pleasure to interact with you as a serious collector. we had some great stories to share.
Thank you for the very kind words.
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@Mr Lindy said:
Mike Byers is Number 1 Shenanigans Mint Error Dealer, who's still active.
Then there is:
Lonesome John was #1 Shenanigans Mint Error Dealer of all time who had long since retired & much later RIP.
From talking to LJ over the long distance phone and in person in early 1980's I have always assumed LJ was getting Mint Errors from San Fancisco & Denver & Philly that were both made to order for him or were riddled out mis shaped naturals that were spirited out. This was due to fact that he advertised in print numismatic media in early and mid 1970's seeking errors to purchase. He wanted errors and then the errors found him.
Then #1 for me is Fred Weinberg who has happily retired & is living the dream.
Most of my exotic error coins came from Fred.
I always received great errors from Fred at affordable prices.
Luckily for me I buy & hold so most everything I bought last 47 years I still have.
I’m doing just fine. There’s enough business for everyone.😉
I appreciate your comments and am honestly pleased that you enjoy the literature and rare errors that I churn out.
There are many ex-Byers rare mint errors floating around and happy to hear that you acquired some.
I definitely have handled enough of them.
Your SMS Dime struck on the huge oversized cupped planchet is one of my favorites that you have posted.
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Hypothetically it could also have been struck through a Earthworm
I doubt having the word Twine on the label makes it any more valuable of a strike through error.
It actually does make a big difference to some to have as accurate descriptions as possible and unique struck thrus are super cool IMO.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
“It actually does make a big difference to some to have as accurate descriptions as possible and unique struck thrus are super cool IMO.”
I have to agree with Chris (CTF Errors) on this one!
BOTH PCGS and NGC need to do a better job describing struck thru’s.
There!
I said it😳
SullivanNumismatics said:
“PCGS has the final "veto power" over any attributions I make.”
ErrorsOnCoins said:
“Sounds like PCGS wants to double check any new attributions to be 100% sure.”
I was spoiled for 20 years. I was able to drive to Fred’s office, do business and while I was there, Fred would write up my walk thru mint error submission ( like when he authenticated my gold 1900 Indian Head Cent). Then I would drive to PCGS and walk it thru. In some cases I would select the 2 day option or 5 day option.
Sounds like ( no fault on Jon’s part ofcourse) that PCGS is not able to handle walk thru and express mint error submission invoices anymore unless they are at a coin show to receive them. Otherwise obviously there are delays now, using Jon in Florida. It would still be nice to have the option to send some to PCGS, if they can figure this out.
Yes, whenever possible, the actual description of the strike thru "maker" (cloth, string, plastic, etc) on the PCGS label is the way to go. The more information on a label the better, as it benefits both collectors and dealers, and simply makes the coin more interesting to the owner.
We all love to know "what exactly" caused or makes up a particular error, and the generic term "strike thru" is a last resort when no direct cause can be determined.
I agree with Jon's statements above - if we're 98.5% certain it's struck thru
a specific item, PCGS will note it - if not, then 'struck thru' will have to suffice.
And I just realized I have to stop saying 'we', and say 'Jon' !
Fred, LOL, so the threshold is 98.5%.
And I thank you very much for the "Struck Thru Twine" mint error label on that Sac. I sold it shortly thereafter
Exactly, having such a precise description is a benefit to everyone involved, and I think Fred has always done a solid job getting descriptions accurate and precise. Putting a generic description is always just a last resort when it cannot be determined with certainty.
That sounds like a neat Sacagawea you had Chris.
Jon, here is the link to the original Sac on twine thread.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1005012/huge-major-struck-thru-sacagawea-error-coin/p1
When I sell coins, I delete the images which I properly shouldn't. My computer hard drive crashed recently so I did lose some unbacked up info and photos.
I know PCGS has a true view but I do not know the cert number without doing some deep digging. Zions is great at research, maybe he can find the trueview and convince me more on the following of pedigrees.
Very nice, thanks for the link. The eye-appeal is excellent!
I dug a little deeper and found the trueview, Graded MS66 "Struck Thru Twine"
I buy on eBay a 10 mint set …. This was a nice surprise ….
It is indeed very interesting. Why not start a new thread on it?
I did post it on my profile … as “ Struck Through Twine? Mint Error”
You should start a new thread. No one will see it on your wall/profile.
Sullivan is AN AWESOME Error Coin Dealer !!! He is super knowledgeable. I have been adding Error Coinage to my wayward& meandering error coin archive for Five plus Decades. I have done biz with 99% of all the heavy error hobby hitters, most transactions back then occurred via long distance charges or just trust. Jon has helped me expand my collection as he is sourcing epic, unique inventory. Any one on the planet who collects errors should refresh Sullivan's site, often. You might save big money on achieving your desires by buying direct, and not 48 hours later for 2x to 3x or 4x or more admission. Happy Friday !!! Happy Shopping !!!
Way kewl! A two-sided strike through that wrapped around the edge during the strike!
Would that make it a three-sided strike through?
TD
Thank you Lindy, always enjoy talking errors with you!
@Srivano Nice double-sided strike through, and through string most likely. It appears to have the fibers and pattern of some sort of string. It could most likely be written that way if submitted to PCGS, although an in-person examination would be needed to confirm.
Notable to hear that you'd have to see it in person & happy to hear that you've taken a place in PCGS history. Does that mean that a submission travels from Ohio to California, to Florida and back to California? Current turn around times prevent many from submitting as it is. If so, seems like an unreasonable amount of time to grade.
@younique Although I am not the person to ask about turnaround times, I don't think it makes much if any difference on turnaround times as the process by which I examine the coins is expeditious.
Wasn't that coin found in a 1965 Special Mint Set? So shouldn't it be labeled SMS or SP?
My mistake . . . It was a 1965 quarter that I saw in the special mint set.
Congrats to Jon on being PCGS's new error attributor, and congrats to PCGS for figuring out that using consultants not based in southern California might be a good idea.
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I think anyone viewing the coin can deduce it was struck thru some sort of string. I don't think it's necessary for the grader to use that level of granularity on the label.
Great error though!
Yes, Jon, is very knowledgeable in his new position. Met the gentleman at the recent ANA Show in Chicago. I showed him my newly found "dual Strike throughs", in which were raw at the time.
Here they are now certified. However, by the, "across the street", fellows. lol
Jon, if you are out there? Remember me?
Discussing these with you? I can totally understand if you don't, sir.
Thank You.
001.
002.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.I do recall the coins I think--nice to meet you at the show, and appreciate the kind words.
Awesome, thanks for replying.
Maybe, next Big Show in Chicago, I'll show off my 2 Unique Gems, personally?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Congratulations Jon!
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Thank you.
All the grading services have a duty of trust to authenticate, grade, and accurately attribute the coins customers send them, and that's what I try to do with PCGS as attributer and authenticator. Fred Weinberg did a fantastic job for decades, and I am honored to fill the role he had as PCGS attributer.
I wanted to give an update on this since I've done most of the mint error attribution for PCGS since 2022, that as of about march of 2026, I no longer do the mint error attribution and authentication for PCGS. For any questions about the PCGS mint error service, just reach out to PCGS customer service. Thanks, Jon Sullivan
Sorry to hear that Jon, you did a great job. Anything you can tell us about your departure?
The court jester does not play, but gently pulls the strings…
In my experience, people who know error coins make the best Authenticators, because of their attention to detail and understanding of the minting process.
Tom, I agree – I said 50 years ago that my knowledge of the minting process and how error coins are minted, enabled me to look at gold coins at that time and say “that wasn’t struck at the US mint“. It enabled me to look at a gold coin and fairly easily know if it was fake – and there were many of them around.
It was very helpful when I was traveling to Europe, and of course coin shows here -
looking at and determining authenticity of gold coins through the lens of the minting process.
Every serious coin collector should study the minting process and mint errors.
Thanks! And nothing to add other than I enjoyed the work of authenticating and attributing errors for PCGS during my time working for them. It's important to get attributions correct and weed out counterfeits, so I'm glad to have been involved in it.
Well my two favorite Error Specaistists on one thread in 2026 !
Fred & Jon !
How cool is that ?
&
A Happy First Day of Meterorlogical Fall for us ALL !
Lindy
Congratulations! Now, if a knowledgeable Variety Attribution specialist can be brought into the fold.
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Jon is correct. There are many counterfeits. Joe Cronin’s 4th edition of his book is coming out and is loaded with material on fake errors. A must read!
https://minterrornews.com/news-7-31-26-mint-errors-to-die-for-4th-ed-presale.html
No wonder that PCGS gave my coin a body bag.
It is certainly true--knowledge of the minting process and errors is so crucially important in detecting counterfeits. If you know how coins are made, "how they aren't" (counterfeits) are easier to detect.
Sorry @Byers
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Got any 1922 Cents??? 😁
You can’t be everyone’s favorite, lol.🤣
I’m doing just fine. There’s enough business for everyone.😉
It will be interesting to see how PCGS moves forward authenticating and certifying mint errors…
AI ???
Needs no raises, healthcare, retirement, vacations, sick leave, office desk...
I am certain I am missing at least another dozen other cost cutting reasons once companys get past the admission price.
And available to work 24/7/365
Love your decades of error focused literature & your history in hobby !!!
But I am pretty certain I have never acquired an error directly from you or Sam Razzi ?
But I do own ex Byers coins usually at better prices than advertised, auction or published.
Infact I posted high praise on your Is Mike Byers the most famous dealer thead ? from August 1st 2026:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/14132496#Comment_14132496
Lindy, I always enjoyed our phone conversations, the few times we met at a show in Colorado, and it was always a pleasure to interact with you as a serious collector. we had some great stories to share.
Thank you for the very kind words.
I appreciate your comments and am honestly pleased that you enjoy the literature and rare errors that I churn out.
There are many ex-Byers rare mint errors floating around and happy to hear that you acquired some.
I definitely have handled enough of them.
Your SMS Dime struck on the huge oversized cupped planchet is one of my favorites that you have posted.
Thank you Lindy! You're one of the best.