1977 topps basketball...thoughts from the board
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Should PSA recognize the back differences, one gray and one green, much like the 1952, 1954, 1956, 1959, 1981 opc baseball backs? 1979 football isn't recognized either, yellow vs gray?
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I once read that it was a due to a manufacturing difference in paper (due to availability/cost?). Since it was not an intentional design difference, I doubt that PSA will recognize it. Still, I like the brighter backs much better on the 77 Basketball cards.
100%. The grey backs are really tough in high grade and criminally undervalued in my humble opinion. My anecdotal evidence (from looking for grey backs on eBay for the past several years) suggests the green are easily 10x more plentiful.
no matter, the card is definitely different. they remade fleer ripken's and johnson's and the prices are different.
I'm still waiting for the 1973 OPC Hockey Gray (Grey) vs. White Back distinction to be recognized by PSA. Another variation they need to specify is the Orange border vs. Yellow border for 1946 Montiel
I'm glad PSA draws a line somewhere... cardstock variations are very common and I'm glad they won't distinguish them.
1968 Topps Football too.
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I agree, so why do they on just some items? The newer cards, just call them prizm's or refractors to designate the differences. Same card pic, but not the same price.
Yes, they should recognize them separately.
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David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
To me the key is intent. If the variation is from procuring different raw materials for the end product, imo it's not worth distinguishing the difference. Paper, ink, printing plates, rollers, etc. can all make the same card look different. I get one might be rarer or more condition sensitive, but that should be reflected in price/value... not necessarily on the flip.
1977 Basketball is one of my favorite sets. One of my earliest memories as a real young kid was buying a box of these and seeing the bright green backs. It's definitely much more difficult to find the grey backs. However, the green backs look so much better!
I like the bright green backs way better too. I have a sub in right now that includes 21 1977 basketball including multiple Ervings, Jabbars, and Maravichs. I don't expect to see them anytime soon though as they were received in March and entered in May. Still in R&D needless to say.
It's my last sub in the hopper at this point and Lord only knows when things will open back up. Good luck with your collection!
Agreed, The bright green is much more desireable to look at.
Baz you are probably correct. But why distinguish the baseball ones? Especially if it's a main set and their are differences either it matters or it doesn't. If they recognize several baseball sets (and their are probably more than I listed) then I think you should list the others. Right now basketball cards are pretty darn hot. A variation, if recognized, could make a huge price difference in the cards.
Nor sure answer to your question but 70s basketball is way underpriced.
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They are really hard to get your hand on nice ones. print supply maybe 25% of baseball.