1912 British Trade Dollar
BDubz
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Good morning friends. I picked this up recently and wanted to get everyone's thoughts on what it might grade. Also...it has mirror-like fields. Could this be a proof? I just don't know much about non-US stuff....so help from the experts is needed.
Thanks!
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It is a 1912 B- Take a look at the trident and you will see a B.
Not a proof... it does have some unusual characteristics that prohibit offering a grade from the images provided. The fields look fairly clean and there is not much there in terms of die polish. I suspect the black spots are some type of carbon spots and not actual hits into the surface. I suspect those are there to stay.
It almost looks as if it is in an NGC holder...Is it and if so, how did they grade it. It might not get a straight grade as the spotting might be considered environmental damage. It is an interesting coin... an in hand look as needed to be helpful in connection with your question.
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Proofs have sharp, square rims, which this piece does not have. It was also struck in Bombay, India, not London, so it isn't a proof.
Thanks both. Not an NGC slab....PCCB, which I've never heard of.
PCCB is not a grading company, they make the slabs. Here's a link to an eBay listing:
https://www.ebay.com/p/2233135441
From those pictures I think it would straight grade at MS62.
Exactly. It says so right on the reverse: Professional Collecting Supplies.
Ain't nobody guaranteeing anything in that slab.
I think it's a counterfeit.
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I agree, that coin is fake
Just curious what characteristics make you think counterfeit?
The Greek Key and beading is very sloppy. Overall mushy details.
This is a heavily-counterfeited series.
Of course things slip past even the best two graders...but this MS65 up for sale on Eeebs displays the same mush in the Greek key and bead details. Not that I think my coin is anywhere near that grade (Nor is that one for sale IMO), but im not convinced its counterfeit either. I didn't pay a lot for it, so it may be worth spending the $40 on for simple peace of mind.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1912B-Great-Britain-Trade-Dollar-Prid-22-MS65-NGC-943496-15-/313699612215?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
It's not real. Missing a ton of detail in the gown, the luster is all wrong, the denticles are wrong. Here's my real one.
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Huh. Very informative thread. With the rapid rise in prices on these recently, I bet these counterfeits will be coming out of the woodwork.
My current "Box of 20"
Hmmm, I wasn't thinking along those lines and was just figuring bad pics. But I agree now that I look!
I would need to see in hand and go through what would seem reasonable as part of an investigation before offering any definitive conclusions as to authenticity
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