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Urban Meyer just isn't cut out for the NFL

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

Urban Meyer is not on the same page with Trevor Lawrence.

Trevor Lawrence has no idea what Urban Meyer is talking about

Jaguars coach Urban Meyer and quarterback Trevor Lawrence don’t seem to be on the same page.

After falling to 0-5 for the season in 37-19 loss to the Titans, the pair had differing answers about Meyer’s goal-line play call in the fourth quarter — when they ran a handoff to running back Carlos Hyde instead of a quarterback sneak while down by 12.

When asked why he didn’t call for a sneak on the failed fourth-down attempt, Meyer said in his postgame press conference that Lawrence is “not quite comfortable with that.”

The Clemson product disagreed.

“No. I feel comfortable,” Lawrence said, “Obviously I haven’t run it in a game, but I feel comfortable… But no, a QB sneak is something we can all get to and I feel comfortable with.”

Lawrence finished the game 22 of 33 for 273 yards, one touchdown and an interception — and added 28 yards on seven carries.

Jacksonville is on a 20-game losing streak, and the pressure on Meyer has ratcheted up following last week’s partying antics.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well let’s be fair, this 20 game losing streak started way before Meyer came to town, this team that is on such a bad losing streak is the team that was inherited by Meyer when he took the job. The hype surrounding Lawrence was somewhat justified but he is still a rookie and n a bad football team. I don’t think anyone could reasonably expect Meyer to turn it around this year let alone come out of the gate hot. They used a 2nd round pick on Etienne if I remember correctly and he was lost in preseason. The WR’s are “OK” the OL and D needs a big overhaul so I think Meyer n Ed’s a little more time and lower expectations for this year

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    interesting to me is that I think the Jags could win a game with some personnel changes and by sitting some players and playing others. the question then becomes are they looking to the future or wanting instant gratification?? looking to the future as they seem to be doing is the better choice.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would like to believe Urban can turn things around, but then he comes out and says things like this, he wants to average 250/250 a game, meaning 250 passing and 250 rushing yards a game.

    Urban Meyer sets unrealistic 250-250 offensive split goal for 0-5 Jaguars

    Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer has set the bar high. Maybe too high. Likely unattainably high.

    Meyer said he liked his team's offensive identity one day after the Jaguars dropped to 0-5 and spoke of a goal that has rarely been touched in NFL history.

    That's hitting 250 yards rushing and 250 yards passing. So 500 yards of total offense.

    There are a few concerns here.

    Meyer's far-fetched goals for Jaguars offense

    No team in the NFL this season has hit those two marks together in a single game, let alone come close to averaging it — and that would seem to be the case if Meyer wants them to hit those marks every game. There are only 33 games of a 250/250 split since the merger 52 years ago.

    The Jaguars are currently averaging 348 total yards per game on offense, broken down to 218.6 in the air and 129.4 on the ground. It's a tough ask for more than 100 more rushing yards per game, particularly when no one else is coming close, either.

    The most productive rushing team in the league this season isn't even touching the 250-yard mark. The Cleveland Browns with star tandem Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt average 187.6 yards per game. The team adds 230 yards per game in the air.

    Not even the 2019 Baltimore Ravens could reach 250 on the ground. They were the first NFL team to average at least 200 in each category, setting the NFL record for rushing yards in a season a with 3,225 total (206 per game).

    Simply hitting on average 500 yards per game hasn't been done this season, either. The Dallas Cowboys lead the league currently with 439.6 yards per game (266.8 passing, 172.8 rushing) in a small sample size of five games. Of the top eight most productive offenses in 2021, three are averaging more than 150 yards on the ground.

    Not even the 2011 New Orleans Saints — who set NFL records for passing yards (Drew Brees, 5,476), yards from scrimmage (7,474) and all-purpose yards (Darren Sproles, 2,696) — averaged 500 total yards on offense.

    Meyer's miscues

    Urban Meyer has big dreams for a Jaguars offense. (Sam Greenwood/Getty Images)
    The Jaguars could use more realistic goals, considering they're now only the second team in NFL history to lose 20 games in a row. The Buccaneers have the record with 26.

    Meyer's miscues have been aplenty in his first year as the Jaguars head coach, and many are products of a longtime college leader coming to the pro ranks. Averaging these numbers at a collegiate powerhouse like Ohio State, where a cupcake non-conference slate can boost averages all on their own, is doable.

    Setting this in the NFL is turning needed goals into far-fetched dreams.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I would like to believe Urban can turn things around, but then he comes out and says things like this, he wants to average 250/250 a game, meaning 250 passing and 250 rushing yards a game.

    Urban Meyer sets unrealistic 250-250 offensive split goal for 0-5 Jaguars

    Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer has set the bar high. Maybe too high. Likely unattainably high.

    Meyer said he liked his team's offensive identity one day after the Jaguars dropped to 0-5 and spoke of a goal that has rarely been touched in NFL history.

    That's hitting 250 yards rushing and 250 yards passing. So 500 yards of total offense.

    There are a few concerns here.

    Meyer's far-fetched goals for Jaguars offense

    No team in the NFL this season has hit those two marks together in a single game, let alone come close to averaging it — and that would seem to be the case if Meyer wants them to hit those marks every game. There are only 33 games of a 250/250 split since the merger 52 years ago.

    The Jaguars are currently averaging 348 total yards per game on offense, broken down to 218.6 in the air and 129.4 on the ground. It's a tough ask for more than 100 more rushing yards per game, particularly when no one else is coming close, either.

    The most productive rushing team in the league this season isn't even touching the 250-yard mark. The Cleveland Browns with star tandem Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt average 187.6 yards per game. The team adds 230 yards per game in the air.

    Not even the 2019 Baltimore Ravens could reach 250 on the ground. They were the first NFL team to average at least 200 in each category, setting the NFL record for rushing yards in a season a with 3,225 total (206 per game).

    Simply hitting on average 500 yards per game hasn't been done this season, either. The Dallas Cowboys lead the league currently with 439.6 yards per game (266.8 passing, 172.8 rushing) in a small sample size of five games. Of the top eight most productive offenses in 2021, three are averaging more than 150 yards on the ground.

    Not even the 2011 New Orleans Saints — who set NFL records for passing yards (Drew Brees, 5,476), yards from scrimmage (7,474) and all-purpose yards (Darren Sproles, 2,696) — averaged 500 total yards on offense.

    Meyer's miscues

    Urban Meyer has big dreams for a Jaguars offense. (Sam Greenwood/Getty Images)
    The Jaguars could use more realistic goals, considering they're now only the second team in NFL history to lose 20 games in a row. The Buccaneers have the record with 26.

    Meyer's miscues have been aplenty in his first year as the Jaguars head coach, and many are products of a longtime college leader coming to the pro ranks. Averaging these numbers at a collegiate powerhouse like Ohio State, where a cupcake non-conference slate can boost averages all on their own, is doable.

    Setting this in the NFL is turning needed goals into far-fetched dreams.

    Ok it looks like Meyer might need to tone it down and realize this is the NFL not Clemson or Ohio State lol

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I would like to believe Urban can turn things around, but then he comes out and says things like this, he wants to average 250/250 a game, meaning 250 passing and 250 rushing yards a game.

    Urban Meyer sets unrealistic 250-250 offensive split goal for 0-5 Jaguars

    Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer has set the bar high. Maybe too high. Likely unattainably high.

    Meyer said he liked his team's offensive identity one day after the Jaguars dropped to 0-5 and spoke of a goal that has rarely been touched in NFL history.

    That's hitting 250 yards rushing and 250 yards passing. So 500 yards of total offense.

    There are a few concerns here.

    Meyer's far-fetched goals for Jaguars offense

    No team in the NFL this season has hit those two marks together in a single game, let alone come close to averaging it — and that would seem to be the case if Meyer wants them to hit those marks every game. There are only 33 games of a 250/250 split since the merger 52 years ago.

    The Jaguars are currently averaging 348 total yards per game on offense, broken down to 218.6 in the air and 129.4 on the ground. It's a tough ask for more than 100 more rushing yards per game, particularly when no one else is coming close, either.

    The most productive rushing team in the league this season isn't even touching the 250-yard mark. The Cleveland Browns with star tandem Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt average 187.6 yards per game. The team adds 230 yards per game in the air.

    Not even the 2019 Baltimore Ravens could reach 250 on the ground. They were the first NFL team to average at least 200 in each category, setting the NFL record for rushing yards in a season a with 3,225 total (206 per game).

    Simply hitting on average 500 yards per game hasn't been done this season, either. The Dallas Cowboys lead the league currently with 439.6 yards per game (266.8 passing, 172.8 rushing) in a small sample size of five games. Of the top eight most productive offenses in 2021, three are averaging more than 150 yards on the ground.

    Not even the 2011 New Orleans Saints — who set NFL records for passing yards (Drew Brees, 5,476), yards from scrimmage (7,474) and all-purpose yards (Darren Sproles, 2,696) — averaged 500 total yards on offense.

    Meyer's miscues

    Urban Meyer has big dreams for a Jaguars offense. (Sam Greenwood/Getty Images)
    The Jaguars could use more realistic goals, considering they're now only the second team in NFL history to lose 20 games in a row. The Buccaneers have the record with 26.

    Meyer's miscues have been aplenty in his first year as the Jaguars head coach, and many are products of a longtime college leader coming to the pro ranks. Averaging these numbers at a collegiate powerhouse like Ohio State, where a cupcake non-conference slate can boost averages all on their own, is doable.

    Setting this in the NFL is turning needed goals into far-fetched dreams.

    Ok it looks like Meyer might need to tone it down and realize this is the NFL not Clemson or Ohio State lol

    I'd like to see him make it, he was an absolute genius in college. I used to watch him on the college pregame show last year and it was amazing watching him break down plays, he has a brilliant mind for the game.

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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Recall this is a guy that brought in Tebow in the preseason, LOL........... Fish out of water.


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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke said:
    Recall this is a guy that brought in Tebow in the preseason, LOL........... Fish out of water.

    Hoodie did the same thing a few years ago…

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