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what US coins don't exist in mint state grade?

tcollectstcollects Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

dates or major varieties, like the 1802 half dime and maybe some overlooked 1800s gold

there aren't many

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1870-cc $20

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  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many earlier die varieties presumably do not, like the 1817/4 half.

    My recollection is one Liberty Seated quarter does not but can't remember the date off-hand.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1822 $5

  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Strawberry Leaf Large Cents, 1870-S $3 Gold.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1854-S $5

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 9:56AM

    1853-O no arrows half dollar

  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭✭

    I am betting before the civil war it is more coins then you think.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1799 Large Cent

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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:
    Many earlier die varieties presumably do not, like the 1817/4 half.

    My recollection is one Liberty Seated quarter does not but can't remember the date off-hand.

    '59s

  • CaptainBluntCaptainBlunt Posts: 199 ✭✭✭

    1861-S Paquet ? Double Eagle
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    1799 Large Cent

    I was going to say the same thing earlier, but I checked, and apparently one has surfaced (or was upgraded from AU).

    The 1804 has two examples in MS.

    Certainly though many of the countless varieties of large cents don’t exist in uncirculated grades.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 11:43AM

    The three that come to mind for me are 1817/4 Capped Bust Half, 1804 class II dollar, and 1854-s $5.

  • PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    How about a mid '60's run of (6) S-Mint $10 Libs.; 1864, 1865, 1866 No Motto, 1866 Motto, 1867, & 1868.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1854-S $5 was my first thought.

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 12:51PM

    1895 Morgan dollar. There are proof specimens, but no MS specimens.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 4:27PM

    @Tibor said:
    1893 s Morgan dollar. There are proof specimens, but no MS specimens.

    The finest known 1893-S is a MS67 IIRC.

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:
    Many earlier die varieties presumably do not, like the 1817/4 half.

    My recollection is one Liberty Seated quarter does not but can't remember the date off-hand.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    1893 s Morgan dollar. There are proof specimens, but no MS specimens.

    It sounds like you're thinking of 1895 dollars.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Tibor said:
    1893 s Morgan dollar. There are proof specimens, but no MS specimens.

    It sounds like you're thinking of 1895 dollars.

    Agreed. I also think the OP meant mint state as in uncirculated (I.e. MS/PF60) and not strictly business strike.

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes I was. Sorry about that.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 12:50PM

    @Tibor said:
    1893 s Morgan dollar. There are proof specimens, but no MS specimens.

    ...

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any proof only issue presumably won't have any mint state coins.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 1:17PM

    1802 Half cent (finest is a xf45, and it has a big scratch)
    1854-0 $20

    I know there is supposed to be a ngc UNC 1870-cc quarter, although I have never seen it, or have herd anything about it. Its still in pop reports. the finest at pcgs are two 55's, the ex battle born /gardner coin ,and the recently sold sierra biker. Somebody must have it held privately.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 1st thought was the Strawberry Leaf LC but someone beat me to it!

    @mannie gray said:
    1854-S $5 was my first thought.

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptainBlunt said:
    1861-S Paquet ? Double Eagle
    1northcoin would know

    Correct. Apparently only several hundred of the San Francisco minted Reverse Paquets survived and none are known to be in mint state.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:
    1854-S $5 was my first thought.

    $2.5 too. I think.

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1869 half eagle might qualify. Unless you count the NGC Ashland City coin. I would like to see that one in hand as it looks like a possible proof in the photos.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    My post has been corrected. As a corrective measure I will send 3 parking lot finds and 2 zincolns for TPG grading.

    Well you didn’t have to get personal about it. :/

  • rkprkp Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    PCGS has not graded an 1860-O Seated Dime as MS.

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh I didn't. Just my sense of humor trying to lighten the situation. @CoinscratchFever
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:
    The 1870s dollar comes close

    Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are many more coins that have a few so called UNCs that have claims to UNC but not really. Coins like the 1883o eagle come to mind

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2021 7:40PM

    @tradedollarnut You forgot nuclear missiles

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    Oh I didn't. Just my sense of humor trying to lighten the situation. @CoinscratchFever
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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1849 $20 Gold

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭

    Eliasberg had the unc 1870-CC quarter. Lovejoy had the unc 1860-O dime.

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1829 curl base 2 bust dime.

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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1812/1 Large 8 capped bust half

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  • cccoinscccoins Posts: 291 ✭✭✭✭

    1872 cc $5 tops out in AU58.
    1870 cc $10 tops out in AU55.
    1872 cc $10 tops out in AU58.
    1873 cc $10 tops out in AU58.
    1876 cc $10 tops out in AU58.
    1877 cc $10
    1878 cc $10

  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like both the 1859-S quarter and the 1861-S quarter fit the bill.

    @WCC said:

    Many earlier die varieties presumably do not, like the 1817/4 half.

    My recollection is one Liberty Seated quarter does not but can't remember the date off-hand.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Get a copy of Don Taxay's 1970 Encyclopedia. It was the first book to say which coins were not known in Uncirculated. Before that the Redbook and most other pricing guides tended to list every date and mint mark in every condition, with the understanding that there was only one Uncirculated condition unless you collected Large Cents

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  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1829 curl 2 dime. Finest so far only VF35.

    Famous capped bust halves include the 1807 bearded goddess, finest AU55 and 1839 small letters XF45 (the MS63 doesn't seem to exist). A bunch of different pre-turbs don't exist in mint state. The finest 1806 O-108 knob 6 no stem, finest XF40.

  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1804 $2.5 13 stars reverse

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Crypto said:
    The 1870s dollar comes close

    Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades

    ... but not cigars ... or something like that.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1850-o V-4 Small o half dime. Finest known is EF. Many known in lower grades.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1795 small head half dollar

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1823/2 quarter in NGC MS61 CAC (now crossed to PCGS AU58+ GOLD CAC)

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