09SVDB More bad pictures, but based on one aspect in the designers initials "Help To Report It"

The pictures are bad, but I'm looking at the center cross bar in the "B" in the designers initials, its pretty clear, and to me its not slanted?
What else can you tell about this coin?
It was pointed out that the number 1 in the date has a serif.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/133883215588?hash=item1f2c0fbee4:g:IEwAAOSw21hhSeCD
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with that date, i can't call it authentic.
B crossbar looks pretty straight like you say. Can you see the N in UNITED any better in the picture?
https://livecoinqa.com/f/1909-s-vdb---genuine-or-not
The Deep Cut N (picture on the right) in UNITED does not appear on a real 1909 S VDB.

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ask for better pictures of the Date/mm and the VDB
Look at the letter spacing on the reverse in America, notice the spread in Ame vs the how crowded eric is, plus the overall look of the fonts.
I'm leaning towards a Phony.
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Fake!
I saw that listing this morning and knew you would find it soon.
It's addictive, now your hooked
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The 1 in the date is all you need to see.
It's addictive, now your hooked
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
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It does look to have a serif on it, the loops of the 9's look a little to closed too.
Its amazing to think that there is that many fakes of just this one coin out there!
Its untold how many Lincoln collections that's been put away for years that has a Phony 09SVDB in them
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
You said that already.
You might want to shorten your title and put "Please Report"
While we are at it we might as well get this 16D.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334155087768
https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/ing3024?lb=1
And this one too.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/403173363418
https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/anastkar40?lb=1
Link for the OP's 09svdb
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133883215588
https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/*sixgunsson*?filter=feedback_page:RECEIVED_AS_SELLER&_trksid=p2047675.l2560
One more.... might as well throw a Morgan in the mix.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185063972074
https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/grandgran03?filter=feedback_page:All&_trksid=p2545226.m2531.l4585
I think grandgran03 has been reported before
Well, that's an opps on a double post, I clicked to post it the first time, and it didn't look to have posted, so a little later I check and it was still in a message body waiting to post, so I clicked it again??
I guess that means your double hooked
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Thomas Jefferson!
You're right! This is more fun than...... self edit
Its raining Fakes & Phony's,
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Yes, quite a few times and ebay has done nothing t to the seller.
His 1878 S & 1886 S look questionable too but he is hiding them with bad photos.
I'm working on getting my brain wrapped around this deep cut/shallow cut "N"
This is a for sure genuine one!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Where’s the mintmark for the coin in the first post? And is there a link for the listing?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I posted it above but here it is.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133883215588
Thanks.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Thanks for your help Mark.
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It took me awhile to figure out what they were talking about also - but once you see it it's pretty obvious.
It's from "Crotch" to "Crotch" on the N in UNITED - the "close" one is a true S VDB, the "far" one is the other 1909's. I guess there could be exceptions if dies were interchanged but I haven't seen any examples as yet.
Real S VDB

All of the other 09 Minted cents

"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
All still active.
Another one while we are at it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185057736016

"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Speaking of, the listing for the 09SVDB in the OP HAS BEEN REMOVED! Wind Blew & POOF!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
No die chip, no real.
Let me ask you this, its known that the San Francisco Mint used 4 different obverse die sets in minting the 09SVDB leaving the Mint Mark in 4 different locations, so, is that die chip present in all 4 die sets?
(its my understanding that its not, but I'm still learning the different phony die markers)
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Thomas Jefferson!
That's great! I hope the wind blows again and gets all the other listings that are still active.