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TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 22, 2022 2:32PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great question. Cuba is a country to watch. There are nice coins with artistic merit... I really like the ABC Peso... and there are several currency issues worthy of interest for both historical and what was issued... or not... that makes an interesting story.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So are there any books?

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not know of any books specific as to Cuba...

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks

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  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There probably were, in the pre-Castro era, local coin guides - in Spanish, with prices in Cuban pesos.

    The problem these days is, Cuba is a communist country. And communist countries generally dissuade their citizens from being or becoming coin collectors. Coin collectors tend to take an unhealthy interest in pre-communist history, and/or an unpatriotic interest in the history and coinage of other countries, neither of which are healthy for a communist regime to perpetuate. Finally, of course, there's the whole "money is a necessary evil" doctrine taught by communism.They still teach in Cuban schools that one day soon, everyone will throw away all their money, not because the government will make them do it, but because money will have become useless as the fully ripe socialist utopia means no more buying or selling things, everyone will share everything and all things capitalist - including money - will fade into obscurity. No kid's going to want to take up coin collecting when that's the message being drummed into them.

    EBay of course blocks all sales of Cuban coins and coins from Cuba, making it relatively more difficult to obtain Cuban coins, compared to coins from other countries.

    All of which means that a "Cuban coin catalogue" would need to be perpetuated by expatriates. Cuba has a large expatriate community in the United States, but these folks generally aren't interested in Cuban coins as a whole - mainly because "as a whole", the majority of Cuban coin types were issued by the communist government. So, no English-language Cuban coin books, either.

    The closest I could find is the Krause catalogue of Portugal, Spain and the New World - a catalogue made by essentially extracting out the Latin American countries from the regular Krause catalogues, both pre-and post-independence. This would include Cuba. However, even this book has not been updated since its initial printing in 2002, so as a price guide, it would be out of date.

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  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe this one, but it is in Spanish:
    "Cuba.emisiones de monedas y billetes.1915-2014. Tapa blanda – 1 Enero 2017"

    I see it avail in amazon.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2021 10:39AM

    @Sapyx said:

    Appreciate the post I did not know that about Communist nations but why would Ebay block them if the seller lives outside of Cuba?

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  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KingOfMorganDollar said:
    Appreciate the post I did not know that about Communist nations but why would Ebay block them if the seller lives outside of Cuba?

    In it's statement where it explains the rationale behind the Embargoed Countries policy, Ebay rather blandly states:

    This policy helps ensure that important government regulations are followed.

    The policy is enforced largely through automated word filters: if an eBay seller attempts to use the word "Cuba" or "Cuban" in the title or description of an item, the word filters will detect it and the seller will see the listing cancelled and a warning popup that they were attempting to violate eBay policy. Attempting to bypass the word filter by using substitute words like "Kuba", "Castroland", or "The Big Island to the South of Florida", will likely succeed in fooling the bots and allow your listing to actually be posted, but doing so will highly likely result in third parties reporting your listing to eBay, which will get you in even bigger trouble for attempting to circumvent an eBay policy and would likely see your account banned.

    EBay sees itself as being a good American corporate citizen in creating and enforcing this policy. However, the policy is just as rigidly enforced on all of eBay's subsidiaries, worldwide. So I'm here in Australia, and I can't list Cuban coins for sale on eBay Australia, because of this policy - even though my country's government has no quarrel with or sanctions against the government of Cuba. Thus, the whole world suffers from America's inability to find a palatable solution to the Cuba problem.

    It's also rather lazy policy writing on eBay's part, as the policy blanket-bans every single coin ever made in or for Cuba - be it Spanish colonial, pre-Castro or Communist. US government sanctions aren't targeted against Cuba, they're targeted against communist Cuba. One would assume that coins issued by the pre-Communist pro-America regime would be the very things the American government would like to promulgate, but the eBay blanket ban was and is the simplest solution for eBay - this way, eBay doesn't need to employ a bunch of experts in Cuban products and make judgement calls on every single listing. The blanket ban is so simple, the word-detecting bots can enforce it.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all appreciate it learned a lot.

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