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  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2021 11:16AM

    And none of that POP TARTS you see when someone on the Dodgers hits a double -- ya know, patting oneself on the head, acting like "Joe Cool", acting like your God's Gift to Baseball. Go Giants!

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charliej2356 said:

    And none of that bull pop tarts you see when someone on the Dodgers hits a double -- ya know, patting oneself on the head, acting like "Joe Cool", acting like your God's Gift to Baseball. Go Giants!

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A homerun. Opposite field no less. Wow! Pretty gosh darn impressive!

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Hydrant: You completely missed the point!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2021 10:20AM

    So he hit a HR and didn’t celebrate at all. I get it, it’s called “old school”

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What are we supposed to be looking for here? A home run in the middle of a game that barely cleared the wall?

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Tabe: We're supposed to be comparing Posey's professional reaction (i.e. "all business", no "drama queen") to the unprofessional reactions normally seen after a double by a Dodger. Is that difficult for you to see/understand?

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charliej2356 said:
    Tabe: We're supposed to be comparing Posey's professional reaction (i.e. "all business", no "drama queen") to the unprofessional reactions normally seen after a double by a Dodger. Is that difficult for you to see/understand?

    Well, since you didn't post any of that in the original post...

    And then, when you did mention it, you started with "And" which implies there was something else we were supposed to be seeing in addition to his non-reaction.

    So, I again ask, what are we supposed to be seeing AND then recognizing his non-reaction?

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2021 11:08AM

    @charliej2356 said:
    Hydrant: You completely missed the point!

    That's not uncommon for me. So.....I watched the video two more times. Yea, you might be on to something. I get your point. Classy. I like it!

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Thank you, Hydrant. "Classy" is a good way to describe Buster. He is deservedly headed for the HOF.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it is just the Dodgers. Baseball traditionally did not allow for much celebration. Maybe it was unwritten rules, plus tradition, that made it that way. I am 45, and during my lifetime I have heard lot of talk about celebrations in baseball.

    I certainly don't mind celebrations. Stoicism has it's place. Certain types of "show boating" I don't like.

    Any type of celebration in baseball was almost unseen for so long, making any now really stand out. I sure there are good and bad examples.

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    "Any type of celebration in baseball was almost unseen for so long, making any now really stand out." I disagree. When I was growing up in Baltimore, I remember a photo in the Baltimore Sun (newspaper) that showed Brooks Robinson jumping higher than I imagined he could ever jump (he was celebrating the Orioles first ever World Championship). That was in 1966! The big difference: Brooks was celebrating Baltimore's first championship. By contrast, the Dodgers celebrate a mid-season double. See the difference?

  • robert67robert67 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭✭

    Buster is one of my favorite players, but most other catchers could not get away with doing this:

    https://www.facebook.com/thebsblr/videos/buster-posey-deciding-that-its-strike-3-before-the-umpire-actually-makes-the-cal/310797153399200/

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing, robert67 -- that is most interesting, and something that I've never noticed. Umpires don't like it one little bit when players make assumptions on ball/strike calls. I usually see the batter (heading toward first base) or the pitcher (heading toward the dugout) making assumptions like that. I'll start paying more attention as I watch Giants games. Thanks for the comment.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to believe a Giants fan who doesn't like the Dodgers

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Hard to believe a Giants fan who doesn't like the Dodgers

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    Giant fans don't like the Dodgers WAY more than Dodger fans don't like the Giants. Actually...... I don't think Dodger fans care one way or the other.......It's a California thing........people up north look down on SoCal. It's a joke. People who live in Northern California ALWAYS let you know that they live in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA! Why?.....they're jealous of us!!!!!!

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Since I've always lived on the east coast, I know nothing about that "California thing". As an avid baseball fan observing from afar, I really learned to like Tim Lincecum [amazing pitcher for a very tiny man) and now Buster Posey [such a great catcher, leader, hitter, person, ...]. For as slooooowww a runner as Posey is, it's truly amazing that he's got a career average of .303 -- wow!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I moved to LA eight years ago. I came with an east coast bias as well. I typically dislike the Dodgers although I found myself rooting for them last year as the city could have used some news. I'm back to disliking them. This years Giants team is fun. It reminds me of the last Royals team that went all the way. They are easy to root for. Posey is a good ball player and seems like a pretty good dude.

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  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    Justacommeman wrote: "This years Giants team is fun." Yep, absolutely! No big egos, no show-offs, no clubhouse arguments -- just a team of guys who root for each other and really wanna win. I think the Giants manager has done a fantastic job of using the talents of the entire roster -- every guy expects to contribute in just about every game. Fun!

  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 9:33AM

    @Hydrant said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Hard to believe a Giants fan who doesn't like the Dodgers

    m

    Giant fans don't like the Dodgers WAY more than Dodger fans don't like the Giants. Actually...... I don't think Dodger fans care one way or the other.......It's a California thing........people up north look down on SoCal. It's a joke. People who live in Northern California ALWAYS let you know that they live in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA! Why?.....they're jealous of us!!!!!!

    Hydrant, oh come on.
    I've lived in both. LA could care less about NorCal. Some Northern CA denizens just think
    that LA behaviour should be kept south of San Jose. Heck, when I was in school, Marin and SF people wanted to designate San Jose as SoCal, lol.

    I have quite a few friends that played for SC. But inspite of Cal having twice the NFL salaries as SC, SC fans consider Cal an insignificant football school. Misplaced arrogance.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/college/

    Have a nice day
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Hard to believe a Giants fan who doesn't like the Dodgers

    m

    Giant fans don't like the Dodgers WAY more than Dodger fans don't like the Giants. Actually...... I don't think Dodger fans care one way or the other.......It's a California thing........people up north look down on SoCal. It's a joke. People who live in Northern California ALWAYS let you know that they live in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA! Why?.....they're jealous of us!!!!!!

    100% accurate. I didn't learn of the hatred toward most all things So Cal until I moved to Nor Cal for college. I like both parts of the state but the "rivalry" is WAY more of a thing north to south. Most people in LA like Nor Cal and see no reason to create a rivalry with their intrastate brethren. The Dodgers v. Giants "rivalry" was completely one way since the early 70's as the Giants were basically irrelevant most every year so the Dodgers rivals were teams like the Red's teams of the 70's. I think once the Giants won three world series (quite impressive) Dodger fans started getting more into the rivalry... but still nothing like Nor Cal Giant's fans.

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    I know what you think Charlie but more curious what others think. Was Buster Posey a first ballot hall of famer before this season? Is he now? My take is he was not before this season and probably still isn't but it's closer. He was a future HOFer but I don't think a first ballot guy. However, having an impressive year at an "older" age has definitely helped his case. Curious what others think. Great player, 3 championships, plays the game the right way, etc....

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2021 6:38PM

    @larryallen73 said:
    I know what you think Charlie but more curious what others think. Was Buster Posey a first ballot hall of famer before this season? Is he now? My take is he was not before this season and probably still isn't but it's closer. He was a future HOFer but I don't think a first ballot guy. However, having an impressive year at an "older" age has definitely helped his case. Curious what others think. Great player, 3 championships, plays the game the right way, etc....

    I didn’t think so either but he’s getting close enough for me to almost jump on the bandwagon. Save me a seat Charlie

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  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @larryallen73 said:I
    I know what you think Charlie but more curious what others think. Was Buster Posey a first ballot hall of famer before this season? Is he now? My take is he was not before this season and probably still isn't but it's closer. He was a future HOFer but I don't think a first ballot guy. However, having an impressive year at an "older" age has definitely helped his case. Curious what others think. Great player, 3 championships, plays the game the right way, etc....

    Just my opinion, but Posey is not a first ballot HOF'er to me. I like him and he is really good but I don't consider him one of the greatest ever.

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    So hard for me to not chime in -- so please let me add one comment. To me, it's truly amazing that a guy like Posey, who is sloooooooow as a turtle, has a career batting average of .302 -- just think of all the infield hits that he didn't get. That career average is much better than most of the HOF catchers.

  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @charliej2356 said:
    So hard for me to not chime in -- so please let me add one comment. To me, it's truly amazing that a guy like Posey, who is sloooooooow as a turtle, has a career batting average of .302 -- just think of all the infield hits that he didn't get. That career average is much better than most of the HOF catchers.

    That's fair. He's a class act and great catcher. I just can't equitably compare him to a guy like Bench or Berra. I will root for him though and believe he will get in. But, I'd take Munson in the clutch (all-around and he's not even gonna get in). I also grew up in a different era so that likely biases me. :)

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2021 10:37PM

    @larryallen73 said:
    I know what you think Charlie but more curious what others think. Was Buster Posey a first ballot hall of famer before this season? Is he now? My take is he was not before this season and probably still isn't but it's closer. He was a future HOFer but I don't think a first ballot guy. However, having an impressive year at an "older" age has definitely helped his case. Curious what others think. Great player, 3 championships, plays the game the right way, etc....

    I think he'll get in but I'm not sure he deserves it. Before this year, he'd played 6 full seasons. He's got 12 years in the majors but just 6 times playing 120 games, twice playing less than 50. He's got some impressive hardware - ROY, MVP, 1 Gold Glove, a batting title but... relatively low power numbers (just 155 homers).

    I think he's probably good enough, just not sure he's played enough. Less than 1400 games, barely 1000 of those at catcher. If I'm a voter, I'd want to see a little more.

  • charliej2356charliej2356 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭

    It was mentioned above "But, I'd take Munson in the clutch ..." so I looked up Thurman Munson's stats.
    Thurman Munson: batted .292, with 113 HR's in 5344 AB's
    Buster Posey: ........ batted .302, with 155 HR's in 4865 AB's

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @charliej2356 said:
    It was mentioned above "But, I'd take Munson in the clutch ..." so I looked up Thurman Munson's stats.
    Thurman Munson: batted .292, with 113 HR's in 5344 AB's
    Buster Posey: ........ batted .302, with 155 HR's in 4865 AB's

    That sort of makes my point. Munson was 32 when he died and wasn't great long enough. Buster is older and I didn't think, before this season, he had done it long enough to get in first ballot. I think having a great season this year will be big for him getting into the hall eventually. If he retires in the next year or so, without getting more numbers, it will be interesting to see what happens!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    do not watch the new tatis commerical.

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