MS70 & PF70 Platinum Eagle Question
DisneyFan
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Are you seeing hazing or other unattractive "toning" developing on platinum Eagles in slabs?
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1madman
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I have seen proof platinum eagles develop hazing in slabs because the coins were improperly dipped before submission. Coins were released from the mint, and in an effort to achieve more 70 grades in the batch, they were dipped but unfortunately not rinsed correctly. This caused a temporary “beautification” to the surfaces when immediately submitted for grading, then as time went on the hazing developed from the dipping substance.
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Huh?!
Are you?!
Any pictures?
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When checking out on-line auction lots it seems to me that many of the platinum eagles have hazing on them. Since I can't view these coins in hand I'm wondering if it's just the photography, the holder, or the problem is real because of storage? Anybody with actual knowledge?
I haven't seen any significant spots or hazing yet but there could be some out there.
Some pictures do appear to show spots but the ones I've bought ended up being something on the holder or a reflection in the photo.
What are some auction links?
Platinum will not tarnish, or tone at all, but if you heat it up to 800-900 degrees it might get a thin oxide film.
Anything you see is either on the slab, or if on the coin it is fingerprint oils or other handling crud. The metal is a noble metal and basically inert.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
It's taken me a long time to figure out how to do this. Here is a screen shot. When asked, the dealer said this: "There are definitely some small specks scattered on both sides actually on the coin. "
I wonder
Could the streaking be from stress on the die surface…
Here is another one.
I submitted these 2 after I bought them from the mint. I didn’t rinse them or dip them in anything and they are doing fine after all these years.
Mr_Spud
Lower right of TRUST at the rim
That is from the die. I see it a lot searching mint sets
In the case of the 2008 platinum, I'm specifically referring to "There are definitely some small specks scattered ..." on the edge of the right side (2008) of the coin.
If what you see are spots or marks that are from surface crud, if you send them in for restoration service, there is a good chance they will go away. If they are from small handling scratches or some other type of die imperfections, then they will stay there.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Remember these coins are in "70" holders.
Imperfections imparted from the die are graded as struck
Specks of dust can be on the surfaces of coins as it appears they aren’t encapsulated in a dust free environment
Here is an example of unusual shadows on a MS70 platinum coin. The darkness above Liberty's crown bothers me as well as the area around the neck.
Variations in surface “shine” / “texture” is also normal
You’ll see it a lot on ASE if you look at enough of them.
Probably just bad photos. Buy from a dealer or coin show where you can view in hand and then you can see what you are buying.
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You mentioned silver - should platinum be different?
Is it there on the actual coin itself or just a function of how the picture was taken?
If it's on the coin itself, is it acceptable for a 70 MS or PF?
To me, a dark spot makes a platinum coin a 69 and these coins "turned."
That's not an option. Platinum coins don't exist at coin shows and no local dealers carry them. I've even tried selling them to dealers at coin shows with no interest.
Platinum coins are basically found at the major auctions.
That’s a MS70FS
I have never seen the coin in hand, but all the surface characteristics are imparted from the interaction of the die and coin, then the lighting set up in the photo process