Canada 1955 Arn.?

thefinn · July 29, 2021 10:09PM

Looks like it could be. How many lines beneath the island?
Worth sending to ANACS for cheap verification.

coinkat · July 30, 2021 4:06AM

I believe there are two Arnprior varieties for 1955- The most desirable has an obverse die break in the area of the TI in GRATIA. You should look for that. If it is not present, you still may have an arnprior but I am not certain it will be recognized by PCGS. I had such a coin and still do that PCGS did not call an arnprior because the obverse die break was not present. I submitted that coin about 15 years ago so perhaps times have changed and both varieties may be recognized. My point in mentioning this is that the non die break variety brings less money.

Just for fun, consider posting the obverse as the reverse looks nice. Could be a submission candidate based on the grade possibilities regardless of where it gets the arnprior designation. I suppose the downside on the submission side is that the coin may get a PL designation instead of an MS designation. If the coin can grade MS65 or MS66, it will be worth submitting. Keep us posted...and best of luck with whatever path you choose

1960NYGiants · July 30, 2021 5:20AM

Don - that looks like a Arnprior to me. Also, based on the rims it looks to be a Proof-Like coin. In PL65 it's a $300CAD coin.

ajaan · July 30, 2021 6:12AM

Not my coin. No die break. I didn't realize PCGS doesn't recognize the non die break Arnprior even though all Canadian collectors do recognize it.

It is graded PL66 by PCGS.

coinkat · July 30, 2021 7:14AM

So... not to be more difficult than usual, PCGS did not call this one an arnprior?

I like this one... definitely PL and worthy of a 66

coinkat · July 30, 2021 7:23AM

thanks for posting the obverse... what is interesting is the 1955 that I submitted and made reference to earlier was clearly an MS example and I was hoping for the Arnprior designation (which I did not get) as well as a 65 grade (which I did not get) as it graded MS64.

ajaan · July 30, 2021 7:25AM

Not sure now. The coin is on NEN's site and doesn't have a slab image. Their description doesn't say Arnprior.

coinkat · July 30, 2021 7:52AM

I would think Arnprior would be the greater selling point than PL66

ajaan · July 30, 2021 10:08AM

@coinkat said:
I would think Arnprior would be the greater selling point than PL66

I agree. I sent them an email telling them is an Arnprior.

coinkat · July 30, 2021 10:27AM

Some further commentary might help outline my thought process. I see this coin as a PL not just because of the fields but because of the Queen's hairline and how distinct it is. The hairlines are well defined. And as Gene pointed out, it does have the rims of a PL. Grading these is just not as easy as it appears given the use of the dies and several dollars from the 1953-55 time frame ... and even later... can have the appearance of PLs but are really MS coins. I think the 1953 represents the greatest challenge to sort out.

I suspect NEN may appreciate the numismatic question that they have with this coin. My suspicion is that they are just following what PCGS opined which includes their PL66 grade and just left the Arnprior status on the table.

1960NYGiants · July 30, 2021 3:08PM

FYI - the 1955 Arnpriors in PL all do not have the die break, i.e. the die break occurs on Business strikes only.

Ref: 2021 Charlton page 213

Here is my example: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/20420920

ajaan · July 30, 2021 3:51PM

@1960NYGiants said:
FYI - the 1955 Arnpriors in PL all do not have the die break, i.e. the die break occurs on Business strikes only.

Ref: 2021 Charlton page 213

Here is my example: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/20420920

Is the Arnprior listed on the holder Gene?

1960NYGiants · July 30, 2021 8:14PM

Yes

coinkat · July 31, 2021 1:30PM

I don't believe all the 1955 business strike Arnpriors have the die break which plays into the controversy

1960NYGiants · July 31, 2021 7:34PM

@coinkat that is true, I have all 3 varieties in my collection. Here is my ARN w/die break:
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/28099985

BTW, the holder does not state "die break". I do not have a photo of the non die break variety.

The top 3 in the pop report photos all have the die break. Note: there is no PCGS # distinguishing them.
https://www.pcgs.com/valueview/elizabeth-ii-1953-1986/1955-s-1-arnprior/4398?sn=32462&h=pop

BillyKingsley · August 1, 2021 12:55AM

What is arnprior? First time I've ever heard of it.

syl · August 1, 2021 4:24AM

Here is a link with some info on arnprior dollars, named after a town in ONT and the result of overpolished dies that removed some of the waterlines.

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=108106

coinkat · August 1, 2021 4:32AM

There are various years that have a SWL designation too. I have not followed the SWL closely, but I believe that a SWL variation has been found for 1946 and 1954.

PBRat · August 1, 2021 8:33AM

named after a town in Quebec

Arnprior is in Ontario, just west of Ottawa.

YQQ · August 1, 2021 8:58AM

1955 $ 1
Arnprior is usually listed by most TPG;s, (sometimes it is only a SWL)
Die Cr obv is not always mentioned. as at times it is very slight only and at times it is pronounced.
at long time ago I had a discussion with ICCS and was told: it is barely visible... but I insisted it is there.
sometimes a SWL is mistaken for ARN.
Arnprior is a town in Ontario. there seem to be numerous "true" stories about the ARN dollars.

Canada 1955 Arn.?

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