1969 s. Penny DDO.

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 10:33AM

cmerlo1 · July 21, 2021 10:38AM

Even with the satellite photos, I don't see any indications it's the doubled die. See the images here- it has to match them EXACTLY or it isn't the DDO: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1969SDDO001.htm

TurtleCat · July 21, 2021 10:39AM

These aren’t very good pictures to judge from but from all appearances… if there is any doubling it is mechanical doubling.

If you can get sharper and closer pictures it will help a lot.

FredWeinberg · July 21, 2021 11:02AM

Not the DDO

JBK · July 21, 2021 11:06AM

ifthevamzarockin · July 21, 2021 11:11AM

Steven59 · July 21, 2021 11:12AM

Agree - not DDO - and more bad pictures once again.

NumisOxide · July 21, 2021 11:17AM

1c

silverpop · July 21, 2021 11:18AM

clear up close photos are needed to help if the coin is a DDO or not

MasonG · July 21, 2021 11:29AM

For this date, if you have to get opinions from others, it's not a dd.

MFeld · July 21, 2021 11:55AM

@silverpop said:
clear up close photos are needed to help if the coin is a DDO or not

I disagree. The doubling on the 1969-S DDO is conspicuous enough, such that it would be at least partially apparent, even from that image.

Coinscratch · July 21, 2021 12:57PM

All of my coins look like that after about 6 beers. I got lots of doubleleys...dooblys...diabelys..double please.

ifthevamzarockin · July 21, 2021 1:13PM

I'm on my 2nd 5th and I can fee it sine.

AlanSki · July 21, 2021 1:21PM

I Had 5 MG of benzodiazapines, energy drinks, smoked coffee on my traeger and chewing tobacco.

I see many things but a DDO is not one of them.

stockdude_ · July 21, 2021 1:23PM

@MFeld said:

@silverpop said:
clear up close photos are needed to help if the coin is a DDO or not

I disagree. The doubling on the 1969-S DDO is conspicuous enough, such that it would be at least partially apparent, even from that image.

Absolutely correct.

koynekwest · July 21, 2021 2:03PM

We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

coinbuf · July 21, 2021 2:14PM

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Jimnight · July 21, 2021 2:17PM

I don't see it.

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 2:20PM

@cmerlo1 said:
Even with the satellite photos, I don't see any indications it's the doubled die. See the images here- it has to match them EXACTLY or it isn't the DDO: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1969SDDO001.htm

What if the doubling was , a second strike but nowhere near each other?

koynekwest · July 21, 2021 2:24PM

@coinbuf said:

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Yes-I guess it would.

MFeld · July 21, 2021 2:41PM

@koynekwest said:

@coinbuf said:

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Yes-I guess it would.

This is not directed at the OP.

It takes more than the effort to view websites (and pictures) such as the one mentioned above. That’s the easy part. Based on emails I receive every week from those in denial, it also takes the willingness to compare their coins to the recognized/attributed examples with some objectivity and open eyes, not just wishes for riches.

Vetter · July 21, 2021 2:41PM

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

You should see the Facebook posts on “what’s my coin worth” 10 posts a day just like this one.

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 2:45PM

After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

jesbroken · July 21, 2021 2:53PM

It would be nice if our forum would provide a link to the various websites, such as variety vista, pcgs photograde, pcgs price guide, and various other authoritative sites for the benefit of all, especially newbies. If they could make it visible and noticeable asking newbies to check here first before posting along with the suggestion of nonblurry photographs. With todays cameras and cellphone cameras, very little expense is incurred to be able to take pics that are clear enough for evaluation, although if the above websites were better accessible, might not be such a need for photos. JAO
Jim

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 2:55PM

I did. And it's an DDO.

JBK · July 21, 2021 2:57PM

@emeraldATV said:

@cmerlo1 said:
Even with the satellite photos, I don't see any indications it's the doubled die. See the images here- it has to match them EXACTLY or it isn't the DDO: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1969SDDO001.htm

What if the doubling was , a second strike but nowhere near each other?

Then it would not be a Doubled Die. It would be Double Struck.

JBK · July 21, 2021 3:00PM

@Dewlynn59 said:
After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

Then prove it.

Either provide pictures that show it, or have it slabbed.

astrorat · July 21, 2021 3:01PM

@jesbroken said:
It would be nice if our forum would provide a link to the various websites, such as variety vista, pcgs photograde, pcgs price guide, and various other authoritative sites for the benefit of all, especially newbies. If they could make it visible and noticeable asking newbies to check here first before posting along with the suggestion of nonblurry photographs. With todays cameras and cellphone cameras, very little expense is incurred to be able to take pics that are clear enough for evaluation, although if the above websites were better accessible, might not be such a need for photos. JAO
Jim

Good idea ... or ... a post can be created with all the relevant websites and permanently placed at the top of the US Coin forum. Kinda like with the "Resources: Books to read on numismatic series and varieties" that is the current #2 post.

Now ... will it make a difference?

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 3:03PM

@MasonG said:
For this date, if you have to get opinions from others, it's not a dd.

Just double checking. It's a DDO> @AlanSki said:

I Had 5 MG of benzodiazapines, energy drinks, smoked coffee on my traeger and chewing tobacco.

I see many things but a DDO is not one of them.

See : 1969-s-DDO-002/2-O-V-CW.> @jesbroken said:

It would be nice if our forum would provide a link to the various websites, such as variety vista, pcgs photograde, pcgs price guide, and various other authoritative sites for the benefit of all, especially newbies. If they could make it visible and noticeable asking newbies to check here first before posting along with the suggestion of nonblurry photographs. With todays cameras and cellphone cameras, very little expense is incurred to be able to take pics that are clear enough for evaluation, although if the above websites were better accessible, might not be such a need for photos. JAO
Jim

See: 1969-s-DDO-002/2-0-V-CW.

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 3:04PM

The date 1969

airplanenut · July 21, 2021 3:05PM

@MFeld said:

@koynekwest said:

@coinbuf said:

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Yes-I guess it would.

This is not directed at the OP.

It takes more than the effort to view websites (and pictures) such as the one mentioned above. That’s the easy part. Based on emails I receive every week from those in denial, it also takes the willingness to compare their coins to the recognized/attributed examples with some objectivity and open eyes, not just wishes for riches.

How many Egyptian swimmers are contacting you about their coins every week?!

jesbroken · July 21, 2021 3:06PM

@astrorat said:

@jesbroken said:
It would be nice if our forum would provide a link to the various websites, such as variety vista, pcgs photograde, pcgs price guide, and various other authoritative sites for the benefit of all, especially newbies. If they could make it visible and noticeable asking newbies to check here first before posting along with the suggestion of nonblurry photographs. With todays cameras and cellphone cameras, very little expense is incurred to be able to take pics that are clear enough for evaluation, although if the above websites were better accessible, might not be such a need for photos. JAO
Jim

Good idea ... or ... a post can be created with all the relevant websites and permanently placed at the top of the US Coin forum. Kinda like with the "Resources: Books to read on numismatic series and varieties" that is the current #2 post.

Now ... will it make a difference?

That's kind of what I had in mind. As to making a difference, who knows but could it hurt?
Jim

koynekwest · July 21, 2021 3:13PM

@Dewlynn59 said:
After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

See? You didn't have to inquire here after all, except to get the Variety Vista link. You attributed it yourself using that website.

Dewlynn59 · July 21, 2021 3:15PM

@airplanenut said:

@MFeld said:

@koynekwest said:

@coinbuf said:

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Yes-I guess it would.

This is not directed at the OP.

It takes more than the effort to view websites (and pictures) such as the one mentioned above. That’s the easy part. Based on emails I receive every week from those in denial, it also takes the willingness to compare their coins to the recognized/attributed examples with some objectivity and open eyes, not just wishes for riches.

How many Egyptian swimmers are contacting you about their coins every week?!

Including your mom none.> @koynekwest said:

@Dewlynn59 said:
After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

See? You didn't have to inquire here after all, except to get the Variety Vista link. You attributed it yourself using that website.

I did. Good site. It's a DDO.

MFeld · July 21, 2021 3:16PM

@JBK said:

@Dewlynn59 said:
After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

Then prove it.

Either provide pictures that show it, or have it slabbed.

He need not do any of those things. He’s apparently satisfied with what he found out.

MasonG · July 21, 2021 3:32PM

@Dewlynn59 said:

@MasonG said:
For this date, if you have to get opinions from others, it's not a dd.

Just double checking. It's a DDO

With all due respect, after reading this thread:

How rare is a 1919 uk one penny made with copper.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1040479/how-rare-is-a-1919-uk-one-penny-made-with-copper/p1

I would think a second opinion would be in order.

Just sayin'.

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 3:34PM

Found these photos.

JBK · July 21, 2021 3:34PM

@MFeld said:

@JBK said:

@Dewlynn59 said:
After reviewing the ebook reference (1969-s ddo-002) 2-0-v-cw. The 69 in the date is doubled.

Then prove it.

Either provide pictures that show it, or have it slabbed.

He need not do any of those things. He’s apparently satisfied with what he found out.

Just click on their name and then on their page click on "discussions" and review their prior threads.

Then decide whether to laugh or cry.

ifthevamzarockin · July 21, 2021 3:39PM

@emeraldATV "Found these photos."

Wow!!! You found a 1969 S DDO too.

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 3:41PM

MasonG · July 21, 2021 3:45PM

@MFeld said:
He’s apparently satisfied with what he found out.

He was also satisfied when he found out that the coin he sent to PCGS was made of copper, zinc and tin because it confirmed his claim the coin contained no bronze.

FWIW...

ifthevamzarockin · July 21, 2021 3:45PM

I think I'm gonna start on the 3rd 5th after this thread.

koynekwest · July 21, 2021 3:49PM

A doubled die that minor isn't gonna be worth much. But I guess it's still nice to find it.

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 4:08PM

@koynekwest said:
A doubled die that minor isn't gonna be worth much. But I guess it's still nice to find it.

Never give up...as the frog in the pelican's throat is hanging out strangling the pelican (in a poster)

airplanenut · July 21, 2021 4:49PM

@Dewlynn59 said:

@airplanenut said:

@MFeld said:

@koynekwest said:

@coinbuf said:

@koynekwest said:
We seem to be getting an awful lot of these easily identified doubled dies and other varieties asking us to verify. If these are serious inquiries (I sometimes wonder about that) then an easy way for you to verify or eliminate them is to visit this website-http://www.varietyvista.com/

Use that and you won't have to come here for verification. There's dozens of high quality images that make it easy, especially for major stuff like the 1969-S DDO-001.

That would require some effort

Yes-I guess it would.

This is not directed at the OP.

It takes more than the effort to view websites (and pictures) such as the one mentioned above. That’s the easy part. Based on emails I receive every week from those in denial, it also takes the willingness to compare their coins to the recognized/attributed examples with some objectivity and open eyes, not just wishes for riches.

How many Egyptian swimmers are contacting you about their coins every week?!

Including your mom none.

Well, I have to admit you're better at comedy than you are identifying varieties. Not that that's saying much.

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 5:07PM

I know, its a uphill battle 2.

MsMorrisine · July 21, 2021 5:09PM

1969 S inverted S

koynekwest · July 21, 2021 5:12PM

An S over an inverted date, too.

Oldhoopster · July 21, 2021 5:15PM

@MasonG said:

@Dewlynn59 said:

@MasonG said:
For this date, if you have to get opinions from others, it's not a dd.

Just double checking. It's a DDO

With all due respect, after reading this thread:

How rare is a 1919 uk one penny made with copper.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1040479/how-rare-is-a-1919-uk-one-penny-made-with-copper/p1

I would think a second opinion would be in order.

Just sayin'.

Wow. I didn't realize that this was the same guy. Thanks for the blast from the past. Even after the explanations of how XRF works, he was still insisting that his coin was rare because it detected copper but not bronze. You can't make this stuff up

Steven59 · July 21, 2021 5:18PM

@jesbroken said:
It would be nice if our forum would provide a link to the various websites, such as variety vista, pcgs photograde, pcgs price guide, and various other authoritative sites for the benefit of all, especially newbies. If they could make it visible and noticeable asking newbies to check here first before posting along with the suggestion of nonblurry photographs. With todays cameras and cellphone cameras, very little expense is incurred to be able to take pics that are clear enough for evaluation, although if the above websites were better accessible, might not be such a need for photos. JAO
Jim

What? And give up reading all these interesting replies?????? Never!!!!

emeraldATV · July 21, 2021 5:21PM

I'm working here ya know. prognoissess ?

1969 s. Penny DDO.

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