Can an MS69 coin have die polish?
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On Zincoln cents from the 1980's & 1990's that are essentially flawless otherwise?
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Yes, die polish does not negatively affect the grade.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
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I would think yes
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A perfect 70 coin can have visible die polish lines.
Yes. The Indian Head nickel series was notorious for die polishing.
Yet not a tiny milk spot...
Yes, but I'd add a caveat. At the top grades, eye appeal becomes more important. I could imagine some heavy die polish being distracting enough that even if the coin were otherwise pristine, it could get dinged. Not the same, but you can find Silver Eagles in 69 and 70 with minor planchet chips, which are as-made. I'm not sure big chips exist, but I'd bet a large enough one, even if mint-made, would lower the grade on an eye appeal argument which of course is, by nature, subjective.
I guess the milk spot is the result of a pre strike planchet issue (improper rinsing?) so they don’t look kindly upon it. Die characteristics, though, always seem to be a non factor.
Yes. A current forum member owns an 1849 G$1 PCGS MS69 with lots of striations that don't blink and rich frost and color that mostly obscures the impact of that group of defects, All the obverse fields have rim-to-rim vertical parallel lines. .
It's likely not in CoinFacts. It was graded IIRC within the first year of PCGS operation. Rattler days, though I'd imagine a newer holder is now protecting it. It's a scenario more likely than if it was sent in for a regrade.
Mentioned why? Perfect dies strike a perfect planchet and produce a perfect strike. With no post die-ejection damage.
An MS70. At 5X.
But lots of MS69 coins have amazing this or that and don't make it based on the strictest measure of some aspect of quality.
Amazing eye appeal (color+lustre) MS67 Saints will have more allowable marks that would blast white MS67 dollars.
Die chip in the middle of the face or the middle of the locks of a Morgan? Size and location might tilt a coin in close cases.
Jeremy is right on-target again
I would not grade an 83-CC DMPL with that not-atypical deep multi-directional flurry around the eagle as a 69.
67 likely? Trying to concoct hypotheticals. YMMY
I'm off to pick some nits on another thread.
Realistically it can be graded/slabbed a 70 then the milk spots appear after the fact.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Yes, but it can't be graded a 70 with a small milk spot and the TPG's won't guarantee the grade if it spots after slabbing. Sort of a pet peeve of mine. If it's "natural toning" (isn't it?), it shouldn't be completely disqualifying in my mind. [Yes, I'm alone on this.]
Right , I've had MS70 ASE's that developed milk spots in the slab but by then there was nothing to do, Obviously no more a 70, sad,
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"