Home Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum

T206 reprint with Wagner wearing shades and a pimp chain

What in the name of God is this for $2500 already?

A joke? You can buy real cards, mid grade solid keys for that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224512032566?hash=item3445f5bf36:g:nc0AAOSweoRg1PsD

Comments

  • PastaBoyPastaBoy Posts: 182 ✭✭✭

    Just came out not long ago AFAIK so how'd it get graded so quickly with all the delays and back-logs going on at PSA? Just curious.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @PastaBoy said:
    Just came out not long ago AFAIK so how'd it get graded so quickly with all the delays and back-logs going on at PSA? Just curious.

    What in the blue blazes is it? Is this supposed to be some type of artistic endeavor? Like in the 1960s when an artist who wouldn't even be able to draw a stick figure would take 4 pictures of a soup can, tint them different colors, assemble them collage style and someone with more money than brains would pay 5 million ducats for it? B)

  • PastaBoyPastaBoy Posts: 182 ✭✭✭

    It is part of this 2021 collection: https://www.topps.com/cards-collectibles/online-brands/project70.html but artist signed and numbered so guess worth lots more than base card. Only 10 of 'em.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    Huh? So there's actually people paying upwards of $2500 for a freshly printed Wagner repro because the guy who thought of tricking out old Honus P with shades and pimp chain signed it and he's considered an artist; this masterpiece a testimony to his DaVincian dwarfing genius?

  • rcmb3220rcmb3220 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭✭

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    Huh? So there's actually people paying upwards of $2500 for a freshly printed Wagner repro because the guy who thought of tricking out old Honus P with shades and pimp chain signed it and he's considered an artist; this masterpiece a testimony to his DaVincian dwarfing genius?

    There, there. It’s ok.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @rcmb3220 said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    Huh? So there's actually people paying upwards of $2500 for a freshly printed Wagner repro because the guy who thought of tricking out old Honus P with shades and pimp chain signed it and he's considered an artist; this masterpiece a testimony to his DaVincian dwarfing genius?

    There, there. It’s ok.

    Where, where, is it OK, Jimmy Two-Times? Don't forget to get the papers, get the papers.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @rcmb3220 said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    Huh? So there's actually people paying upwards of $2500 for a freshly printed Wagner repro because the guy who thought of tricking out old Honus P with shades and pimp chain signed it and he's considered an artist; this masterpiece a testimony to his DaVincian dwarfing genius?

    There, there. It’s ok.

    And in all seriousness, I bothered to post a thread asking about it because I had no idea what the heck it was. I'd never seen it or anything like it, I wasn't even sure if it was a real issue or someone's knock-off/mock up, and if that was the case, PSA grading it confused the issue for me even more. And to tell the truth, I still don't fully understand what it is and why people are willing to pay multi-thousands for it.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sold by the artist. He has four more on auction now, FWIW.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2021 3:17AM

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    And to tell the truth, I still don't fully understand what it is and why people are willing to pay multi-thousands for it.

    Whatever it’s artistic merits are, I can’t imagine why anyone would want it. I’d rather have a PSA 9 1974 Celerino Sanchez.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    What in the name of God is this for $2500 already?

    A joke? You can buy real cards, mid grade solid keys for that.

    If I should ever acquire this in a large lot of other items, this would be the first thing that i would get rid of.

  • weaselpuppyweaselpuppy Posts: 218 ✭✭✭

    Is this the first time you have realized that people are stupid?

    Jealous. Wish I lasted that long

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    to each their own but if youre gonna do him like that then at least have the brain to put “honu swagner” as the name.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    What in the name of God is this for $2500 already?

    A joke? You can buy real cards, mid grade solid keys for that.

    If I should ever acquire this in a large lot of other items, this would be the first thing that i would get rid of.

    How about if this, a Babe Ruth 1966 style card, magnificently rendered by the superbly talented artist, Jeremyville (age 4?), was included in that large lot. Would you still get rid of the Honus Wagner first?

    Sort of reminds me of Mr. Bean's 1st restoration of Whistler's Mother:

  • burghmanburghman Posts: 958 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2021 4:45AM

    You should look through the Project 2020 archives and check out the various artist interpretations - you might find someone you like in the 400 cards that were done (20 artists each tackling the same 20 cards). Guys like Keith Shore, Fucci, or Ermsy have unique styles - not in my wheelhouse but there are some who love them. Interesting to see the different takes on the same cards - not for everyone, for sure, but you might like something.

    Jim

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mo_Mentum said:

    @stevek said:

    @Mo_Mentum said:
    What in the name of God is this for $2500 already?

    A joke? You can buy real cards, mid grade solid keys for that.

    If I should ever acquire this in a large lot of other items, this would be the first thing that i would get rid of.

    How about if this, a Babe Ruth 1966 style card, magnificently rendered by the superbly talented artist, Jeremyville (age 4?), was included in that large lot. Would you still get rid of the Honus Wagner first?

    Sort of reminds me of Mr. Bean's 1st restoration of Whistler's Mother:

    The BIG difference in my view, is the so-called "artist" is defacing the most iconic baseball card with graffiti. I would be very surprised if this artist is a baseball card collector.

    But i guess Topps didn't give a chit either, since the T206 Wagner isn't their baseball card.

    I get it...it's all about the money. And it's also about taste. However they ain't getting any of my money because for my taste i consider this card to be a piece of garbage.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burghman said:
    You should look through the Project 2020 archives and check out the various artist interpretations - you might find someone you like in the 400 cards that were done (20 artists each tackling the same 20 cards). Guys like Keith Shore, Fucci, or Ermsy have unique styles - not in my wheelhouse but there are some who love them. Interesting to see the different takes on the same cards - not for everyone, for sure, but you might like something.

    Sorry, I've got anything better to do. 😉

  • kobefan1kobefan1 Posts: 494 ✭✭✭

    I got a few project 70 cards I wanted the T-206 Wagner but I feel the card is a disrespect. I feel the most player disrespect by this project is Yogi Berra not one nice card for him sad. I got a few keith shore x bowman cards like wander franco that getting autograph by him right now. I got the keith shore x bowman Ronald Acuña Jr. and Ken Griffey Jr. auto on card coming sometime this yr.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2021 2:25PM

    @burghman said:
    You should look through the Project 2020 archives and check out the various artist interpretations - you might find someone you like in the 400 cards that were done (20 artists each tackling the same 20 cards). Guys like Keith Shore, Fucci, or Ermsy have unique styles - not in my wheelhouse but there are some who love them. Interesting to see the different takes on the same cards - not for everyone, for sure, but you might like something.

    Well i changed my mind and decided to google "Project 2020 archives", and it came right up. Other than buying a blaster occasionally, I don't collect or follow modern cards, so i wasn't previously aware this issue existed.

    I don't have any problem with a number of the cards. Although the "faceless" cards are puzzling to me. I guess in the mind of some "artist", the "no face" has some sort of meaning. Frankly i don't care what is the meaning, and i think i get their intention. Call me old fashioned, but i prefer a baseball card of a player to have a face on it.

    Just for the record, I'm not faulting PSA at all on this. The job of PSA is to authenticate and grade cards that are issued legally, especially Topps. Which is exactly what PSA did here. However i do blame Topps for at least some of this issue, which in my opinion denigrates what the hobby of collecting baseball cards should be all about.

    Well that's my rant. Maybe Topps will read this thread and say to themselves, "Hey we hissed off the curmudgeon stevek, so we must be doing something right." :)

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I actually like the Wagner. Keep in mind the card itself sells for $20 or less. I did not like it enough to buy it but it made me smile and like the Tgod name on it. I enjoy looking at the cards each week and seeing the takes on them. Have only bought a few. I was very excited about Project 2020 until I saw how large the set was. If it was a 20 card set (one artist doing each card) I would have bought it cost would have been $400 for the set. The expansiveness of Project 70 and Project 2020 is what kept me from collecting them.

  • Mo_MentumMo_Mentum Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @burghman said:
    You should look through the Project 2020 archives and check out the various artist interpretations - you might find someone you like in the 400 cards that were done (20 artists each tackling the same 20 cards). Guys like Keith Shore, Fucci, or Ermsy have unique styles - not in my wheelhouse but there are some who love them. Interesting to see the different takes on the same cards - not for everyone, for sure, but you might like something.

    Well i changed my mind and decided to google "Project 2020 archives", and it came right up. Other than buying a blaster occasionally, I don't collect or follow modern cards, so i wasn't previously aware this issue existed.

    I don't have any problem with a number of the cards. Although the "faceless" cards are puzzling to me. I guess in the mind of some "artist", the "no face" has some sort of meaning. Frankly i don't care what is the meaning, and i think i get their intention. Call me old fashioned, but i prefer a baseball card of a player to have a face on it.

    Just for the record, I'm not faulting PSA at all on this. The job of PSA is to authenticate and grade cards that are issued legally, especially Topps. Which is exactly what PSA did here. However i do blame Topps for at least some of this issue, which in my opinion denigrates what the hobby of collecting baseball cards should be all about.

    Well that's my rant. Maybe Topps will read this thread and say to themselves, "Hey we hissed off the curmudgeon stevek, so we must be doing something right." :)

    I have a hunch that like many major corporations of late, Topps' only concern is

    @stevek said:

    @burghman said:
    You should look through the Project 2020 archives and check out the various artist interpretations - you might find someone you like in the 400 cards that were done (20 artists each tackling the same 20 cards). Guys like Keith Shore, Fucci, or Ermsy have unique styles - not in my wheelhouse but there are some who love them. Interesting to see the different takes on the same cards - not for everyone, for sure, but you might like something.

    Well i changed my mind and decided to google "Project 2020 archives", and it came right up. Other than buying a blaster occasionally, I don't collect or follow modern cards, so i wasn't previously aware this issue existed.

    I don't have any problem with a number of the cards. Although the "faceless" cards are puzzling to me. I guess in the mind of some "artist", the "no face" has some sort of meaning. Frankly i don't care what is the meaning, and i think i get their intention. Call me old fashioned, but i prefer a baseball card of a player to have a face on it.

    Just for the record, I'm not faulting PSA at all on this. The job of PSA is to authenticate and grade cards that are issued legally, especially Topps. Which is exactly what PSA did here. However i do blame Topps for at least some of this issue, which in my opinion denigrates what the hobby of collecting baseball cards should be all about.

    Well that's my rant. Maybe Topps will read this thread and say to themselves, "Hey we hissed off the curmudgeon stevek, so we must be doing something right." :)

    Just the mere existence of these cards, the incidence of Topps producing them, is proof enough, in and of itself, that Topps has joined the role of companies who couldn't care less about pleasing their long standing consumers. Now, the sports card manufacturer's attitude and focus matches that of the leagues whose images and stats are represented by the cards.

    Sports hasn't got much longer to go. The whole idea behind sports is performance, achievement, excellence. Focus of elements other than that is not sports. It's something else altogether. The goal of sports is excellence, not mediocrity. If everybody were qualified to play professional baseball, teams would have 35 million players on them, only a few would be lucky enough to even come to bat in their lifetime. Maybe baseball should consider that, as well as Topps.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brad31 said:
    I actually like the Wagner. Keep in mind the card itself sells for $20 or less. I did not like it enough to buy it but it made me smile and like the Tgod name on it. I enjoy looking at the cards each week and seeing the takes on them. Have only bought a few. I was very excited about Project 2020 until I saw how large the set was. If it was a 20 card set (one artist doing each card) I would have bought it cost would have been $400 for the set. The expansiveness of Project 70 and Project 2020 is what kept me from collecting them.

    Wouldn't that be funny if say fifty years from now, nobody bought this card, those who did wound up trashing it, and Topps discarded all their inventory on it, and then it because as rare as the original T206, and perhaps worth a lot of money. LOL

  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭

    Art...eye of the beholder for sure. Not sure why any of it is worth anything, but it is.

    People buy digital cards and NFTs, so anyone paying something for a physical item should not come as a surprise. There seems to be a market for just about everything, including digital images!

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭

    I just noticed the Wagner is a 1987 Topps.

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
Sign In or Register to comment.