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airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

@kiyote has a thread for Mark’s that break your heart. But they need not all be bad. Show one you’re glad a coin has. This coin has an old staple scratch on the neck. It’s toned in with the rest of the coin and overall isn’t distracting. The coin is beautiful. Without that scratch it would easily be at least a 65 and I never would have been able to buy it on my high school budget. But with that scratch, it’s an otherwise clean, lustrous, and colorful coin in a 63 holder. Affordable and one I still love nearly two decades after buying it.


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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, and the mark is pretty well hidden. Let me see what I can find.......

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I loved this coin and so sad it was deformed. It was a first Conder coin that I bought and liked it even with the problem, but finally sold it and bought a 2 pence Brittania.
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  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:

    Below the E on the reverse.
    It adds character to me.

    I take it that was straight garded!

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:

    Below the E on the reverse.
    It adds character to me.

    Perfectly acceptable IMHO and my eyes weren't drawn immediately to it.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:

    Below the E on the reverse.
    It adds character to me.

    Well, the strange mark that looks like a capital "C" above 2-1/2 adds character in my book, and yes, my eyes were drawn immediately to it. ;)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:

    @asheland said:

    Below the E on the reverse.
    It adds character to me.

    I take it that was straight garded!

    XF45 I believe it’s an old planchet flaw. Or possibly a dig, old whatever it is. :)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SmEagle1795 Is it possible that is a test mark on your coin?

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  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SmEagle1795 said:
    A mark on this coin made me pass on it before but ultimately pulled the trigger earlier this year and I couldn't be happier. Yes, I'd still prefer one without it, but a) there isn't one which ticks the rest of the boxes and b) if there were, it'd cost probably 4-5x as much and this is already an expensive coin.

    In the "Pros" column:

    • Style (this obverse portrait is significantly more dramatic than the lower-relief/more common variety)
    • Rarity (this is one of five in private hands, 11 known in total including museums)
    • 100+ year Pedigree (Ex. de Guermantes, Ex. Jameson, Ex. Grand Duke Alexander Michailovitch, the latter of which is particularly meaningful as the coin's originating region is part of Russia today)
    • Centering and Luster (atypically nice for the issue)

    Cons:

    • A scrape (I lotviewed the coin in 2016 and passed then because of it)

    Ultimately, the scrape isn't the coin's fault and could have very easily happened some time in the coin's collected history (perhaps the Grand Duke accidentally dropped it at one point).

    That is an awesome ancient!! Can you tell us exactly what it is. Great look! Those marks shouldn't bother you at all as it looks fantastic!

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  • rip_frip_f Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    The nicest circulated example of this date I've ever found at a show.
    Then I flipped it over.
    Heart melted a bit, but I still bought it. It's definitely a condition rarity.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SmEagle1795 said:
    A mark on this coin made me pass on it before but ultimately pulled the trigger earlier this year and I couldn't be happier. Yes, I'd still prefer one without it, but a) there isn't one which ticks the rest of the boxes and b) if there were, it'd cost probably 4-5x as much and this is already an expensive coin.

    In the "Pros" column:

    • Style (this obverse portrait is significantly more dramatic than the lower-relief/more common variety)
    • Rarity (this is one of five in private hands, 11 known in total including museums)
    • 100+ year Pedigree (Ex. de Guermantes, Ex. Jameson, Ex. Grand Duke Alexander Michailovitch, the latter of which is particularly meaningful as the coin's originating region is part of Russia today)
    • Centering and Luster (atypically nice for the issue)

    Cons:

    • A scrape (I lotviewed the coin in 2016 and passed then because of it)

    Ultimately, the scrape isn't the coin's fault and could have very easily happened some time in the coin's collected history (perhaps the Grand Duke accidentally dropped it at one point).

    Considering how that mark looks at least partly like it could be as made (even if it’s not) and it’s as out of the prime focal area as possible (the whole design draws your eye to the left) that wouldn’t bother me at all given all the other things you said (and perhaps even without those notes). Awesome design and awesome coin.

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  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2021 9:21AM

    @fastfreddie said:

    That is an awesome ancient!! Can you tell us exactly what it is. Great look! Those marks shouldn't bother you at all as it looks fantastic!

    Thanks! It's a gold stater from the Greek city-state of Pantikapaion, dating back to 380 BC. The obverse is the head of the god Pan (a pun on the name of the city) and the reverse depicts the mythological griffin who was the guardian of the city's gold mines.

    @PerryHall said:
    @SmEagle1795 Is it possible that is a test mark on your coin?

    It is indeed possible, as the scrape is deep enough that it could have been a file mark to see if the coin was solid gold. If so, I want to build a time machine to bring an XRF scanner back to prevent such travesties.

    @airplanenut said:

    Considering how that mark looks at least partly like it could be as made (even if it’s not) and it’s as out of the prime focal area as possible (the whole design draws your eye to the left) that wouldn’t bother me at all given all the other things you said (and perhaps even without those notes). Awesome design and awesome coin.

    Thanks, I appreciate the comments. Coming from US collecting where perfection is crucial, it took me a while to be okay with the prospect of a mark but I'm glad I talked myself into it!

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    @kiyote has a thread for Mark’s that break your heart. But they need not all be bad. Show one you’re glad a coin has. This coin has an old staple scratch on the neck. It’s toned in with the rest of the coin and overall isn’t distracting. The coin is beautiful. Without that scratch it would easily be at least a 65 and I never would have been able to buy it on my high school budget. But with that scratch, it’s an otherwise clean, lustrous, and colorful coin in a 63 holder. Affordable and one I still love nearly two decades after buying it.


    Yea, that one hurts. The coin is a beauty. The color, fields, cheek and other focal areas are excellent. At least a 65 without that scratch.

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