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1982P small date Zinic 1-DR-001

Ok,
I need some help before I post the full reverse..
The issue's are: I'm new, I have no clue how to properly run a scope, and I get alittle bit of a "you can go jump off a bridge attitude" when ppl think im bonkers and make up post..
I have been removed from 4 groups bc my pictures don't show what I see..
I tell them and they refuse to listen or help me..
So it gets me the boot lol
I found this coin last night amongst 1 other sweet one..
The reason I'm only post where this penny has been clashed is bc thats what makes this variety unique.. plus I suck at getting all the die marks to show properly..
Light and angles make a huge difference when locating them.. which I also suck at..
So before post full penny abf doing it a huge injustice I could really use some advice..

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    User1User1 Posts: 160


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I doubt you were booted from four groups just because your pictures don’t show what you see or because people refuse to listen or help you.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Highly unlikely.
    That is one rare variety. It is also a very obvious variety. You will not need the obverse diagnostics to identify.
    Good luck

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    A full reverse photo is the best place to start if you think you have a DDR.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2021 6:05PM

    Wrong variety. Whoops :*

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no comparable die markers between the two.

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    The reverse detail should look exactly like the images below from coinfacts. Otherwise its not the DDR. From the pictures you've provided it is not the DDR variety.

    This is the 1983 DDR. He was asking about the 1982 DDR. But still, his coin is not that variety.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkKelley said:

    @Kliao said:
    The reverse detail should look exactly like the images below from coinfacts. Otherwise its not the DDR. From the pictures you've provided it is not the DDR variety.

    This is the 1983 DDR. He was asking about the 1982 DDR. But still, his coin is not that variety.

    Whoops. My bad.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Updated few more pics..
    I'm not kidding that's it is the one..
    I also know that before I post full reverse I need to know what I'm doing bc if you don't get the same lighting and angle the. It doesn't look right

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still see no comparable die markers between the two

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 6:09PM

    1982P DDR is Different from 1983 DDR markkelly
    The O doesn't look like that

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2 doesn't look like a 3 either.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @User1 said:
    1982P DDR is Different from 1983 DDR markkelly
    The O doesn't look like that

    That was my bad. Here's the one your looking for
    http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1982PDDR001.htm

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 6:14PM

    Ok,
    Not sure why you compared two completely different dates and styles of DDRs?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    who is "you" ?

    person who posted the 1983 has deleted it

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the pictures posted by User1 have no comparable die markers

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 6:19PM

    Ms Morris..
    I said I sucked and getting the markers..
    I'm not kidding..
    My post is about getting the help so I can post the full reverse as it should be..
    To not to any injustice but like also ppl are quick to deny instead if just helping
    I mean for real why is that so hard for ppl to do?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there is no need.

    the die markers are not there.

    also, we don't have the scope with us or us with you to show you how to use it.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2021 6:19PM

    The obverse photos appear to be PMD but that doesn't matter.
    If you are asking about a DDR there is no need to keep posting obverse photos.
    The variety is easy to identify from a clear reverse full coin photo.

    "I have been removed from 4 groups"
    Don't keep doing the same thing expecting a different result.
    If you are posting questions about one side of a coin but will only show the other side it may appear you are just playing games or are a troll.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Yes I have been removed bc no one will help me!!
    Like for real I ask and they just don't help..
    Then we both get aggravated at each other then I get a boot

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Btw.. all pics above was from my cell phone with a lens.. not a microscope which helps with markers alot more

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are really looking for help and not just playing games....... post a full reverse photo. ;)

    We are trying to help you but you are not helping us.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @User1 said:
    Btw.. all pics above was from my cell phone with a lens.. not a microscope which helps with markers alot more

    you've been given the link to the exact answer you seek. you posting pictures is not a part of the equation. look at your coin, look at the pics on that site. voila!

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 6:30PM

    What die marks do you wanna see?
    I will take the time to scope them.. probably gonna suck but I will do it..
    Also until I know how to properly scope and get the image across to the viewer I'm not gonna post reverse..
    This is the same fox hole I have been down with the other groups..
    You guys deny it.. I try to prove it but wind up being incapable bc of my inability to scope and collect the right images..

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A scope will not be needed for a full reverse picture. Just snap a focused pic in a well lit area.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "What die marks do you wanna see?"

    None

    "I'm not gonna post reverse.."

    So you are playing games with people trying to help you. :/

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2021 6:37PM

    The link to pics of the 1982 DDR show clear doubling that you would clearly capture in photos if you were to post them.

    All I can conclude is that your coin is not the DDR.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The obverse marks shown on VV are die polishing lines which are not present on the subject coin

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you believe in it, why not send it to someone like John Wexler and let him validate you?

    http://www.varietyvista.com/Attribution Services.htm

    Not posting the reverse and clinging to the obverse “markers” isn’t going to go solve anything. Unless that’s your intention.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since you are capable of posting close up photos, post photos of “E Pluribus Unum”

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @User1 said:
    What die marks do you wanna see?
    I will take the time to scope them.. probably gonna suck but I will do it..
    Also until I know how to properly scope and get the image across to the viewer I'm not gonna post reverse..
    This is the same fox hole I have been down with the other groups..
    You guys deny it.. I try to prove it but wind up being incapable bc of my inability to scope and collect the right images..

    You are playing games.

    Your photos are more than good enough to show the doubling if it is there. You are wasting our time trying to show microscopic die markers instead of the actual doubling which would be clear to the naked eye.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 6:55PM

    Sorry phone died..
    I will upadate with a non maginfied reverse pic shortly..
    I did my homework on this DDR before posting amd im not messing with yall..
    Im beimg 100% honest about my issue with scoping..
    Not sure if it is the equipmet, me or both

    Ms morris they are there i saw them .. its all about angle and light..
    I will aslo update pic with the markers requested.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Also ive noticed die polish marks can be miss leading depending on the stage of the die.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are obsessed with "scoping" a DDR that would have been clear in any pictures of the quality you have already posted.

    Something tells me your coin is not a DDR but that you will try to insist that it is one. :#

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Go here BEFORE you post this garbage on the boards. Does it look like this? No? Then it ain't what you think it is.

    http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1982PDDR001.htm

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2021 7:14PM

    And by the way, it has to match exactly.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 7:24PM

    Ok..
    Here is your markers for WE GOD as requested...
    So I did teach my self something..
    I ran a screen recorder and then slowly went thru it bc I think my problem is partially equippment..
    Like when I get the shot I want, the scope moves bc of cheap stand thus messing it completely up..

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    I really do think it's a mix of cheap equipment, and being new..
    You can see the upper and lower marks..
    I can provide all marks seen on copper coins but will be in different shots bc of what I said above..
    Getting snap of reverse now..

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    User1User1 Posts: 160
    edited June 11, 2021 7:27PM

    Another reference for marks under TR

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @User1 said:
    Ok..
    Here is your markers for WE GOD as requested...

    "As requested" by whom? No one asked for more pictures of the obverse.

    But you knew that. ;)

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    See,
    This is my issue..
    I can see the marks but I can't capture them properly..
    Same with the doubling..
    I don't know what scope is besy? bc obviously this $10 amazon scope is cutting it..

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why are you still posting photos of the obverse?

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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately operation of your own equipment is not really something that we can help you with, it takes your own practice and experimentation to get it right... and yes maybe something that is of higher quality, which is going to cost more than $10.

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Yes the DDR shows in my scope but as I stated in my post, I didn't want my inability to properly scope to do this variety any injustice

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    User1User1 Posts: 160

    Happy now??
    Still think im jacking around?

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