Why is this forum so Dead ?
Steve_in_Tampa
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Look at the first page and check out the dates, June 6th - one comment, June 7th - one comment, June 8th - one comment. An abysmal one or two comments a day at best. Where is everyone ?
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I agree. We should do better and can do better.
I think that growth needs to come slowly and steadily and the active members here can help with content. I'm going to try a few posts aimed at basic information in my field, obsoletes. Perhaps a few basic threads in the other currency areas would help, too, focusing on what attracts new or crossover collectors. For small size, a thread on what can be found in circulation is better than one on changeover pairs, at least for attracting new blood. A thread on the artistic beauty of large size notes (amply illustrated) would be better than fonts used for serial numbers. These are just a couple of examples. You get the idea.
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Well, the good news it that this thread will stay near the top for quite a while, guilting me into doing something (creating new content) to move it down the list.
I’ll also try and participate more, and start more threads. But the last thing anyone wants is post a thread a get maybe only one or two replies. This reason alone has held me back. I’m a virtual thread composing animal on that “other” forum.
The US coin forum seems to have the most traffic by far, it seems to always have been that way...
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10-15 years ago this forum had a lot more traffic.
I too will try to become more active in starting new threads from time to time.
Yes, there have always been many more coin collectors than banknote collectors and that probably explains the difference in traffic.
And that raises another question, but since I don't want to derail this important thread, I'll start a new thread.
**https://sites.google.com/view/notaphilycculture/collecting-banknotes **
True, technology has had a huge impact. More use of different social media sites, all competing for our attention.
Facebook Marketplace is probably starting to impact Ebay and other online retailers in significant ways. Now we have sites not designed for ecommerce venturing into retail.
But this forum, as any forum, has lurkers who can and should participate. Ask a question, post a note that you can't identify, or just relate a currency-related experience or thought. If it's currency, we'll like it.
blame pcgs for overmoderating this forum for a decade. they banned some of the most respected and expert posters for minor infractions. I saw it happen. Roll this forum back 10 to 15 years and it was incredible here. some threads pushed towards 100 pages. for a while this forum was being moderated by an ex-cosmotologist (a make-up lady), who was so heavy handed, she was constantly closing threads. pcgs killed this forum from the inisde.
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Well put and explained @WingedLiberty1957. Agree completely.
Back in the days when Jesse posted on here?
I, personally, don't have much of a currency collection (maybe 50 notes) as I don't really search to buy specific notes - just what catches my eye. I mostly read on this forum to gain information so I don't reply much, if at all.
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This forum and the Paper Money Forum seem to have the same contributors. A small number of people keep these forums alive and the subject matter may not appeal to everyone. I will occasionally find an interesting post but for the most part not very often.
I tend to read and research on my own and really don't find the forums educational but more entertaining with the show and tell posts. Just my opinion.
Ill try to create more too.
https://papermoneyforum.com/post/note-displays-behind-secaposy-yellen-11771608
With posts like the one that had to go political and off topic in an on topic thread.
Those posts really irritated me. Especially as it seemed vaguely conceivable that SecTreas could have responded to the thread, I think someone said they asked about the note display, and she is supposedly a collector of some kind. As it stands, I would be embarrassed to be part of the collector community if she (or an aide) came upon that thread.
I have the Off Topic board there completely hidden for me (there is a way to do this) and so I usually do not even see political thread titles, but sometimes things leak out... IMO the board here has the correct policy of not allowing off-topic stuff, because way too much that turns into politics, and gets nasty or worse.
This is not a problem with PMF. I too have the off-topic thread blocked. The on-topic thread had one person who posted political shit and he was called out by a number of members. Anyone reading that thread will realize that there is a lot of cool information about the currency displays in Treasury offices. I learned from it.
This forum is not dead - you have been Rick Rolled.
The irony of how much discussion is occuring on a "dead topic" is simply grand !
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Politely disagree as I have been here since 2003.
There were some contributors with very bad behaviour that caused problems here and now they have moved on to the PMF where, surprisingly, more personal attacks and bad behaviour have been permitted and proliferated.
There was a PMF gang-bang against a member there and rather than extoll the virtues of printed paper, the focus was on the caliber of goods that HGR was selling as found to not be "High Grade". Stooping to draw up a trivial contradiction in the business name was sad to see.
Even worse to see that it was a personal attack that was permitted discussion by the moderators.
I get it, this hobby is full of detail oriented people that are searching for imperfections. To some this extends to their personal lives and that level of scrutiny can be toxic to having fun.
I started this thread for opinions related to the stagnation of this forum. To stimulate conversation concerning growing the base and encouraging more participation.
I’m having a hard time understanding why any collector would talk bad about another numismatic forum. This isn’t a competition. These are free and public forums all promoting and advocating for the hobby we all participate in. I’m a member on many numismatic forums and I see occasional dust-ups on all of them. The PMF has an Off Topic category with threads that aren’t exactly everyone’s cup of tea. My advice is to ignore it. Especially if you’re thin-skinned or radically opinionated. I don’t contribute here as much as I do there, but one thing I don’t do is publicly run down another forum. Haters gonna hate.
I recall disagreeing with another collector's grading of a banknote 20 years ago at a coin show I attended and that collector avoiding me like I was the devil (or worse). I was completely shocked to see how weird people could be over this hobby. Why are collectors so serious? And why do they have to be so passionate about being right all the time (both 'in person' or on forums)? It's not "us vs them!" Or at least it shouldn't be. And the greed is really disgusting sometimes: I called this one collector up on charging me a small fortune for a lousy $5 radar he offered to sell me: he eventually sold it to me for a minor profit- like I was his collector colleague (or fellow buddy) instead of some green noob who had just entered the hobby & he was some dealer making a buck with overhead to pay. Anyway, I digress & don't know about you guys, but I'm tired & fed up with all these petty little "in-fighting dramas." We've had idiot self-proclaimed "experts" up here in Canada & i've seen them duke it out on our CPMF. It wasn't pretty (let me tell you) and the moderator eventually stepped in (shut it down) so I've seen this spitting match before. (& when it comes to the off-topic stuff it makes one scratch their head even more). Mostly such rifts just destroy other peoples interest in an otherwise amazing hobby.
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