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Is Herschel Walker the greatest college running back of all time?

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was looking over some lists this morning, and a lot of people think Herschel Walker was the greatest college running back of all time. A lot of people rank him above Archie Griffin, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, and Tony Dorsett. What do you think, is he the best college running back ever?

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He was a beast, that's for sure.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He was in phenomenal shape.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some people have him as the greatest college PLAYER of all time.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough call, there have been some insanely great college backs. I Walker sits at 16 & 19 ( with and without bowl games stats included ) on the list/s of all time leading rushers in NCAA history. We might need to start a thread on which college put out the most top tier running backs in history!!

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    barry sanders 1988 season was the greatest season a college running back ever had.

    i would say barry was the best

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    barry sanders 1988 season was the greatest season a college running back ever had.

    i would say barry was the best

    Best season but overall career is different. Everyone here knows I’m the biggest Barry Sanders fan and say he is the #1 Back of all time but for college he isn’t even remotely near the top, he literally only had one good season..

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was in elementary school when Walker was in college. I was really getting into football at the time as a fan. I was a huge fan of his. I remember I was playing "hangman" with my friend up the street, and I made his name as the answer. 😂

    Best or not, the guy was amazing.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I watched an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary a few years back that was very interesting, it's called "The best that never was", and it's about Oklahoma Sooners running back Marcus Dupree. He was 6"3' and ran a 100 in 9.5, and it's very interesting. He broke Herschel Walker's high school records and some people say he would have been the best ever if his career had not been derailed by injuries and conflict with his head coach Barry Switzer at Oklahoma. Very fascinating story.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the preview for the ESPN 30 for 30 about Marcus Dupree.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwBqlGqGgE

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I'm starting a college running back card collection and I have my eye on a few items on the bay, and no I don't feel guilty about it!

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I watched an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary a few years back that was very interesting, it's called "The best that never was", and it's about Oklahoma Sooners running back Marcus Dupree. He was 6"3' and ran a 100 in 9.5, and it's very interesting. He broke Herschel Walker's high school records and some people say he would have been the best ever if his career had not been derailed by injuries and conflict with his head coach Barry Switzer at Oklahoma. Very fascinating story.

    I couldn't remember his story much at all, so I just did some googling. Looks like he had a bad knee injury in his second USFL year and it ended everything for the most part. He also had injuries his first year.

    The USFL was pretty interesting and wild, imo. It was a different time. A lot of great players went there. I remember loving it. I was finishing up elementary school at the time, huge football fan, and it was exciting.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw that Marcus Dupree 30 for 30, his story is such a shame.

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    JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Archie Griffin was pretty good too.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I saw that Marcus Dupree 30 for 30, his story is such a shame.

    @perkdog said:
    I saw that Marcus Dupree 30 for 30, his story is such a shame.

    Yes it is a shame, another "what might have been" type of story.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I watched an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary a few years back that was very interesting, it's called "The best that never was", and it's about Oklahoma Sooners running back Marcus Dupree. He was 6"3' and ran a 100 in 9.5, and it's very interesting. He broke Herschel Walker's high school records and some people say he would have been the best ever if his career had not been derailed by injuries and conflict with his head coach Barry Switzer at Oklahoma. Very fascinating story.

    I couldn't remember his story much at all, so I just did some googling. Looks like he had a bad knee injury in his second USFL year and it ended everything for the most part. He also had injuries his first year.

    The USFL was pretty interesting and wild, imo. It was a different time. A lot of great players went there. I remember loving it. I was finishing up elementary school at the time, huge football fan, and it was exciting.

    A fascinating time period for football, players would choose the NFL or USFL, Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Reggie White, and Herschel Walker ended up choosing the USFL I believe, before they made their way to the NFL. I think the CFL was an option also.

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    GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭

    Herschel is up there with Barry and Archie as the greatest college RB. Feel bad for Marcus Dupree. Marcus had all the physical tools, and injury eventually ended his USFL career. He did make a brief comeback with the Rams. At Oklahoma, his career ended before it ever truly began. He and Barry Switzer just didn't work out.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like it, I just don't like it. Look at this, I hate it when card conpanies put images like this on a card. This is a Herschel Walker card, I mean, put him in a football uniform for crying out loud. I like some of the Goodwin Champions cards because some of them have cool backs, but they can really screw up the photos on the front sometimes. He looks like a UFC fighter.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh mama, check out this Bo Jackson Superfractor 1/1. This puppy is listed on the Bay for $50,000!

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish paypal would stop sending letters about my account overview to my home. It shows what I've been spending on cards, and sometimes my wife intercepts the mail. There's just some things a woman doesn't need to know!

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I wish paypal would stop sending letters about my account overview to my home. It shows what I've been spending on cards, and sometimes my wife intercepts the mail. There's just some things a woman doesn't need to know!

    Maybe she has a secret account on here. Just maybe. 🤔

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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I don't like it, I just don't like it. Look at this, I hate it when card conpanies put images like this on a card. This is a Herschel Walker card, I mean, put him in a football uniform for crying out loud. I like some of the Goodwin Champions cards because some of them have cool backs, but they can really screw up the photos on the front sometimes. He looks like a UFC fighter.

    To be fair, he's got a 2-0 record in MMA.

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    LandrysFedoraLandrysFedora Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He may not be the greatest, but being a Miami Hurricane guy I nominate Edgerrin James. He was an absolute stud at the U.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ron Dayne = Bell Cow for Wisconsin. It’s not even remotely debatable

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I wish paypal would stop sending letters about my account overview to my home. It shows what I've been spending on cards, and sometimes my wife intercepts the mail. There's just some things a woman doesn't need to know!

    Maybe she has a secret account on here. Just maybe. 🤔

    Stop it, you're scaring me!

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I wish paypal would stop sending letters about my account overview to my home. It shows what I've been spending on cards, and sometimes my wife intercepts the mail. There's just some things a woman doesn't need to know!

    Maybe she has a secret account on here. Just maybe. 🤔

    Stop it, you're scaring me!

    hasn't she already done enough by holding back those delicious brownies from you?

    man I love brownies

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The answer to the OP's question is yes

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I wish paypal would stop sending letters about my account overview to my home. It shows what I've been spending on cards, and sometimes my wife intercepts the mail. There's just some things a woman doesn't need to know!

    Maybe she has a secret account on here. Just maybe. 🤔

    Stop it, you're scaring me!

    hasn't she already done enough by holding back those delicious brownies from you?

    man I love brownies

    Yes, she has, and brownie neglect is a serious offense. I can forgive, but I won't forget!

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Archie Griffin was pretty good too.

    Ohio State LEGEND. Heisman Trophy winner Twice? Ridiculous

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    USC. Mike Garrett, Marcus Allen, Orenthel James, Anthony Davis, Charles White, Ricky Bell... ‘Nuff Said

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Melvin Gordon was amazing. Should've won the Heisman in 2014. Rushed for 2,587 yards. One game that year, he set the single-game NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision rushing mark with 408 yards on 25 carries in just three quarters against Nebraska.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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    GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 5:50AM

    There are too many great college backs. To say that one was better than the other is just not reasonable.

    Here’s one for you. Tell me the only college football player who was the MVP of three consecutive national championship games, yet he never played a down in the NFL.

    He was just the perfect fit on one of the greatest teams of all time.

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldenage said:
    There are too many great college backs. To say that one was better than the other is just not reasonable.

    Here’s one for you. Tell me the only college football player who was the MVP of three consecutive national championship games, yet he never played a down in the NFL.

    He was just the perfect fit on one of the greatest teams of all time.

    I won't give away the answer, but I will add... I thought his never playing a down in the NFL had more to do with health issues than anything else. Please correct me if I am wrong. Either way, the three MVPs is an amazing record to hold, and I think one of them was even in a loss.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m going to take a stab at this. Would it be Tommy Frazier?

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    GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 9:11AM

    If there was instant replay back then, Tommie Frazier would have beaten Florida State, MiamiFla, and Florida in three consecutive national championship games. He beat Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis in their home stadium. Destroyed Florida 62-24 in Arizona. An 18-16 loss to FSU where he was also MVP.

    It’s hard to measure his greatness because he was an option QB who had incredible athletes around him.

    To be in 3 consecutive national championship games is just amazing, and then two years later they destroyed Peyton Manning and Tennessee to share another championship.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So I guessed correctly?

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 11:36AM

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

    Wow and I really didn’t cheat either

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    GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

    Wow and I really didn’t cheat either

    What Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong said for 200 Alex.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldenage said:

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

    Wow and I really didn’t cheat either

    What Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong said for 200 Alex.

    Well my reputation here speaks for itself 🤷‍♂️

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Goldenage said:

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

    Wow and I really didn’t cheat either

    What Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong said for 200 Alex.

    Well my reputation here speaks for itself 🤷‍♂️

    I actually read @Goldenage 's comment as a well-placed joke, not as an accusation that you cheated. Either way, I know you didn't. I didn't know the answer, but I was so intrigued by it I looked it up myself. That led to what I knew about his injuries.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Goldenage said:

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:
    So I guessed correctly?

    👍👍

    Wow and I really didn’t cheat either

    What Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong said for 200 Alex.

    Well my reputation here speaks for itself 🤷‍♂️

    I actually read @Goldenage 's comment as a well-placed joke, not as an accusation that you cheated. Either way, I know you didn't. I didn't know the answer, but I was so intrigued by it I looked it up myself. That led to what I knew about his injuries.

    I did too that’s why I gave his post a “LOL”. And gave the emoji on my response. @Goldenage is all good as far as I’m concerned 👍👍

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    GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My remark wasn’t pointed at perk. I believed him.

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldenage said:
    My remark wasn’t pointed at perk. I believed him.

    I'm glad we got this sorted out 😂 it looks like I was the only one confused....

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldenage said:
    My remark wasn’t pointed at perk. I believed him.

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Goldenage said:
    My remark wasn’t pointed at perk. I believed him.

    I'm glad we got this sorted out 😂 it looks like I was the only one confused....

    All good all around 🍻🍻🙌🙌

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