OnRutton Lincolns?
RELLA
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Hey Everyone,
Anyone know who the newly registered OnRutton Lincoln set belongs to? I noticed it was first at 1% then 8% a few days ago and now its up to 17% with a weighted average of 68.36. Now I know that's not too impressive SO FAR but it looks like someone might have a very nice collection already assembled and are just adding coins when they feel like it. Is this destined to eventually become one of the top Lincoln sets? My guess is that many of the coins are short set coins (1934-1958) and are far nicer than the weighted grade would lead one to believe...anyone else know anything about this set?
RELLA
Anyone know who the newly registered OnRutton Lincoln set belongs to? I noticed it was first at 1% then 8% a few days ago and now its up to 17% with a weighted average of 68.36. Now I know that's not too impressive SO FAR but it looks like someone might have a very nice collection already assembled and are just adding coins when they feel like it. Is this destined to eventually become one of the top Lincoln sets? My guess is that many of the coins are short set coins (1934-1958) and are far nicer than the weighted grade would lead one to believe...anyone else know anything about this set?
RELLA
Do not fall into the error of the artisan
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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Now if he has any 1943's in there, then the story is totally different. He could have all 3 steels in MS68 and have the same score, or for each MS67 he has for them he could have another MS67RD.
Guess what I am saying is that I needed a little math challenge and I have no idea what he has in his set. Just whish that all of these new guys would stop hiding their sets.
#53, #59, #62 and #65 are all hidden
1. All of this is in SOG's post...17% of this series is 24 coins...and with a score of only 4.08 that would lead one to ascertain that 23 of these coins are weight 1 with a lone coin being weight 2. I agree completely with all of this...I did not do that math myself but assumed no more than 2 "weight of 2" coins could be present in this set. From this comes point one...the bulk of this collection (all but 0-2 coins) MUST be 1940-present.
2. Another assumption/question raised by SOG or at least related to his post...is the one weight 2 coin pre-1940? I think it is not...but it could be. This set is not naturally collected with the weight 1 1940-on coins being the cut-off point, plus there are three options for post-1940 coins: the key late-date 1949, 1953 and 1954. Point two...this set contains at least one of these three coins.
3. Call this the "Steel Assumption". I know this is not always the case, but judging from the rapid addition of coins, I am going to limit my assumptions to one of the following three options concerning the 1943 cents: A. All three are present in MS68; B. All three are present in MS67; C. All three are missing. Following these three assumptions...
3A. 1943 P,D,S in MS68. Already a serious set with these three in this condition, and the additional 7 plus in MS67RD. Not likely, but once again possible.
3B. 1943 P,D,S in MS67. This requires that at least 10 other coins be MS67RD. The collector could have 1940-1942 P,D,S solid in MS67RD plus one more coin in MS67RD. That is nothing clearly spectacular but it is, IMO, still the start of a serious collection. Also, if the last MS67RD is not a pre-1940 coin then are three other MS67RDs, along with one of the late-date keys already in the set at MS66RD. But what are the chances that of all these coins this collector has only the most common coins? I am betting that even in this case, although it makes the most common set of all assumptions, that it is still nicer than one might initially think.
3C. No 1943 P,D,S. Once again...this set contains at least 8 MS67RD coins, and only one of those 8 can be the common pre-1940 variety. Of the later date MS67RDs...it is IMO somewhat unlikely that any collector without the steel cents would have the bulk of the surrounding dates (which consist of the only truly common MS67RD weight 1 coins) already in MS67RD. This leads me to think that if this collection does not cointain the steel cents it does contain some slightly less likely MS67RD coins...thus making it the start of a serious collection once again.
I know that this contains a lot of conjecture...but I am curious about these hidden sets myself and would love to hear the thoughts of others.
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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