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The Queen's Beasts 2021 UK One Ounce Silver Proof Coin
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I believe a few of you collect this series. A coin was issued today that compiles all 10 years of issues on one coin. Very nice design - unfortunately sold out of the larger issues quickly, but one ounce is still available. Check it out.
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Saw this on Instagram. I collect the 1oz Proof, the clad version and the BU version so I have to buy it. Bought thru the UK Mint site and will wait if the 2oz BU version will come out.
Royal Mint email with this issue notification came in before noon and already ordered it.
I saw this picture of the gold version
Or this 10kg gold version:
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Get your order in before somebody else snaps it up
I haven't see the "bullion" version of the silver although did see the gold. Really milking the market with this. Damn, have all the other one ounce gold bullions so have to get this I suppose!
Virtually all but the silver one ounce proof have sold out and evidently within the first couple of minutes for most.
Well, just Love coins, period.
One ounce proof is now sold out. Hope everyone got what they wanted
got the one ounce silver proof, wish I could've picked up the 5 or 10 oz silver proofs, but those were gone before I woke up yesterday
hoping they do a 10 oz bullion silver of this in addition to the 2 oz silver bullion - would be great to have a 10 oz version of this for the complexity of design
Ditto as they have me as a slavish buyer....They better finish out the "regular" bullion 10 oz - which is missing, the Greyhound?
Well, just Love coins, period.
Did the mint send out notice for this coin beforehand?
So she's the beast master?
Not trying to be funny, I just don't get the direction of the design.
The Queen's Beasts are ten heraldic statues representing the genealogy of Queen Elizabeth II, depicted as the Royal supporters of England. They stood in front of the temporary western annexe to Westminster Abbey for the Queen's coronation in 1953.
Each of The Queen's Beasts consists of an heraldic beast supporting a shield bearing a badge or arms of a family associated with the ancestry of Queen Elizabeth II. They were commissioned by the British Ministry of Works from the sculptor James Woodford, who was paid the sum of £2,750 for the work. They were uncoloured except for their shields at the coronation. They are now on display in the Canadian Museum of History in Quebec.
The original models are the King's Beasts which survive at Hampton Court Palace near London, sculpted in stone for King Henry VIII (1509–1547) and his third wife Jane Seymour. Copies survive at nearby Kew Gardens. In the 1920s a set of 76 similar heraldic beasts was replaced on the roof of St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, having been taken down in 1682 due to dilapidation.
Origins
There are ten heraldic beasts of a very like sort at Hampton Court Palace near London. They were restored at the beginning of the twentieth century but were derived from originals made in 1536/7 for King Henry VIII and his third wife Jane Seymour (d.1537), and are known as the "King's Beasts". They are carved in stone and each sits erect, supporting a shield upon which there is a coat of arms or a heraldic badge. From the beasts themselves and the emblems which they carry on their shields it is evident that they stood for King Henry and his third Queen, Jane Seymour.
In the autumn of 1952 the Minister of Works, in preparation for the coronation some months ahead, called upon the Royal Academician and sculptor James Woodford, OBE, to create ten new beasts similar in form and character to the ten at Hampton Court but more particularly, appropriate to the Queen. Exact replicas of those at Hampton Court would have been unsuitable for the occasion, for some of them would have little connection with Her Majesty's own family or ancestry,[4] as although the Queen is descended (via female lines) from King Henry VII (the father of King Henry VIII), she is not descended from Jane Seymour whose only son King Edward VI died unmarried.
Characteristics
The beasts are about six feet (1.8 m)[6] high and weigh about 700 pounds (320 kg) each. They are made from plaster, so cannot be left exposed permanently to the elements. Originally uncolored except for their shields, they are now fully painted.
Display at the coronation
The Beasts were on display outside the western annexe of Westminster Abbey, a glass-fronted structure in which to marshal the long processions before the service. The statues were placed along the front with the exception of the Lion of England which was placed in the alcove formed by the north wall of the annex and the entrance used by the Queen to enter the Abbey on her arrival in the Gold State Coach. The statues were placed left to right in the following order when facing the annex from the west: The Lion of England, the greyhound, the yale, the dragon, the horse, the lion of Mortimer, the unicorn, the griffin, the bull, and the falcon.[8][9] This was not the same order as they relate to the royal pedigree, but were ordered in this way for balance and symmetry in display.[10] The Scottish Unicorn, Horse of Hanover, Griffin and Falcon replace four of the Beasts at Hampton Court (Seymour Black Lion, Seymour colour-spotted Panther & Seymour Unicorn & either the so-called Tudor Dragon or the Royal Dragon).
Molly Guion painted the Beasts in 1953.[11]
Relocations
After the coronation they were removed to the Great Hall in Hampton Court Palace. In 1957 they were moved again to St George's Hall, Windsor. The beasts were taken into storage in April 1958 while their future was considered. It was eventually decided to offer them to the Commonwealth governments; Canada, being the senior nation, was offered them first. In June 1959 the Canadian government accepted the beasts and they were shipped there in July. Originally the only coloured parts of the statues were their heraldic shields, but for the celebrations of the Centennial of Canadian Confederation in 1967, the statues were painted in their full heraldic colours. They are now in the care of the Canadian Museum of History in Gatineau.
Historical explanations
The Lion of England Edit
Arms of the United Kingdom.svg
The Lion of England is the crowned golden lion of England, which has been one of the supporters of the Royal Arms since the reign of Edward IV (1461–1483). It supports a shield showing the Arms of the United Kingdom as they have been since Queen Victoria's accession in 1837. In the first and last quarters of the shield are the arms of the House of Plantagenet (the "Lions of England", technically in heraldic language "Leopards of England"), taken from the arms of King Richard I (1157–1199), "The Lionheart". The lion and tressure (armorial border) of Scotland appear in the second, and the Harp of Ireland is in the third.[15]
The White Greyhound of Richmond Edit
Tudor Rose, royally crowned.svg
Main article: White Greyhound of Richmond
The White Greyhound of Richmond was a badge of John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, Earl of Richmond, 3rd son of King Edward III. It was also used by his son King Henry IV and especially by King Henry VII. The Tudor double rose can be seen on the shield, one rose within another surmounted by a crown. It symbolizes the union of the two cadet houses of Plantagenet – the House of York and the House of Lancaster.[16]
The Yale of Beaufort Edit
Beaufort Portcullis Badge of the Tudors.svg
The Yale was a mythical beast, supposedly white and covered with gold spots and able to swivel each of its horns independently. It descends to the Queen through King Henry VII, who inherited it from his mother, Lady Margaret Beaufort. The shield shows a portcullis surmounted by a royal crown. The portcullis (uncrowned) was a Beaufort badge, but was used both crowned and uncrowned by Henry VII.[17]
The Red Dragon of Wales Edit
Arms of Llywelyn.svg
The red dragon (Welsh: Y Ddraig Goch) was a badge used by Owen Tudor, after the story of the dragon on Llewelyn the Last's castle grounds. His grandson, Henry VII, took it as a token of his supposed descent from Cadwaladr, the last of the line of Maelgwn. The beast holds a shield bearing a lion in each quarter; this was the coat of arms of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, the last native Prince of Wales.[18]
The White Horse of Hanover Edit
Arms of Great Britain in Scotland (1714-1801).svg
The White Horse of Hanover was introduced into the Royal Arms in 1714 when the crown of Great Britain passed to the Elector George of Hanover. This grandson of Elizabeth Stuart, sister of King Charles I, became George I, King of Great Britain and Ireland. The shield shows the leopards of England and the lion of Scotland in the first quarter, the fleur-de-lis of France in the second (brought into the royal arms of England by King Edward II) and the Irish harp in the third quarter. The fourth quarter shows the arms of Hanover.[19]
The White Lion of Mortimer Edit
Rose en Soleil Badge of York.svg
The White Lion of Mortimer descends to the Queen through Edward IV, from Anne de Mortimer. The shield shows a white rose encircled by a golden sun, known heraldically as a ‘white rose en soleil’ which is really a combination of two distinct badges. Both of these appear on the Great Seals of Edward IV and Richard III, and were used by George VI when Duke of York. Unlike the Lion of England, this beast is uncrowned.[20]
The Unicorn of Scotland Edit
Royal Arms of Scotland.svg
From the end of the 16th century, two unicorns were adopted as the supporters of the Scottish Royal Arms. In 1603 the crown of England passed to James VI of Scotland, who then became James I of England. He took as supporters of his royal arms a crowned lion of England and one of his Scottish unicorns. The unicorn holds a shield showing the royal arms of Scotland, a lion rampant within a double tressure flory-counter-flory.[21]
The Griffin of Edward III Edit
Badge of the House of Windsor.svg
The griffin of Edward III Queen's Beast is an ancient mythical beast. It was considered a beneficent creature, signifying courage and strength combined with guardianship, vigilance, swiftness and keen vision. It was closely associated with Edward III who engraved it on his private seal. The shield shows the Round Tower of Windsor Castle (where Edward III was born) with the Royal Standard flying from the turret, enclosed by two branches of oak surmounted by the royal crown.[22]
The Black Bull of Clarence Edit
Royal Arms of England (1399-1603).svg
The Black Bull of Clarence descended to the Queen through Edward IV. The shield shows the Royal Arms as they were borne by Edward IV and his brother Richard III as well as all the Sovereigns of the Houses of Lancaster and Tudor.[23]
The Falcon of the Plantagenets Edit
Falcon and Fetterlock Badge of Edward IV.svg
The falcon was first used by Edward III of the House of Plantagenet as his badge. It descended to Edward IV, who took it as his personal badge, the falcon standing within an open fetterlock. Originally closed, the slightly open fetterlock is supposed to refer to the struggle Edward IV had to obtain the throne — "he forced the lock and won the throne."[24]
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TwoKopeiki - thanks for helping the blind to see. That sort of history and tradition is what got me interested in collecting in the beginning. I love it in American coins and world coins equally - the more you understand the history behind a coin the more you are able to appreciate the uniqueness of each piece.
I have to admit I never looked up the Queen’s Beasts. I just thought it was another Royal Mint sales gimmick.
Knowing there is at least some history behind the coins makes them more palatable!
There is a clad version as well since all the rest are now sold out
Thank You very much for that history read.
Bookmarked !
Also, thanks for not scolding me on my post, I wanted to understand and is now understood.
Thank You.
How dare you ask for help or information?
Also, this:
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Anyone happen to notice what these are offering/selling for on eBay? 4 times sales price? Too bad I’m not selling......
"I Knew him well...
Received the one ounce silver proof today. Really a beautiful coin, intricate detail, and perfectly minted. I’d love to see this in a larger format like a five or ten ounce, but it’s impressive at any size. Hope you all were able to pick one up.
nice! their stuff is usually flawless in-hand --- agreed; waiting on that 10 oz bullion 👀
This is mine… any difference in the dates of these ?
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
the 10 oz bullion lion of england; first one in the run of 10; a great one to have - there were 2 different beasts released per year since 2017, if that's what youre asking, re: difference in the dates
the one this thread is referencing is the 'surprise' 11th issue the RM released some weeks ago, containing all 10 beasts as sort of a grand finale to this popular modern series - only in proof silver gold, amd currently only gold bullion, but silver bullion is hopefully on the way
The two ounce silver bullion is available from APMEX at approximately $70