Alabama State Fair Association: Instituted A.D. 1875 Award Medal - by Tiffany & Co.
I found this Alabama State Fair piece interesting for its historical context.
As late as 100 years later in 1875 (and later), after the Civil War and Emancipation Proclamation, the South was pretty open about how their economy was run.
Let's keep the politics out of this.
What politics? I didn't post any.
It was mostly sarcastic. But "the South was pretty open..." could be viewed as being political.
Don't read things into what's not there.
I'm not reading what's not there. I'm reading what is there. That is a political statement about the South.
There is nothing political about that statement.
I just think everyone pontificating about keeping politics out of this thread are kidding themselves given the artifact under discussion.
Focus on history, not politics.
Except the history is political.
I don't think it is in this instance. I think you are reading things that aren't there.
@Zoins said: Alabama State Fair Association: Instituted A.D. 1875 Award Medal - by Tiffany & Co.
I found this Alabama State Fair piece interesting for its historical context.
As late as 100 years later in 1875 (and later), after the Civil War and Emancipation Proclamation, the South was pretty open about how their economy was run.
Let's keep the politics out of this.
What politics? I didn't post any.
It was mostly sarcastic. But "the South was pretty open..." could be viewed as being political.
Don't read things into what's not there.
I just think everyone pontificating about keeping politics out of this thread are kidding themselves given the artifact under discussion.
Focus on history, not politics.
Except the history is political.
I don't think it is.
I dont think it is, either. And I don't think he really believes that.
Man, I hate sarcasm.
This was just an interesting read in Coin World of a historical piece.
OF A PERSON THAT WAS GIVEN FREEDOM
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
@Zoins said: Alabama State Fair Association: Instituted A.D. 1875 Award Medal - by Tiffany & Co.
I found this Alabama State Fair piece interesting for its historical context.
As late as 100 years later in 1875 (and later), after the Civil War and Emancipation Proclamation, the South was pretty open about how their economy was run.
Let's keep the politics out of this.
What politics? I didn't post any.
It was mostly sarcastic. But "the South was pretty open..." could be viewed as being political.
Don't read things into what's not there.
I just think everyone pontificating about keeping politics out of this thread are kidding themselves given the artifact under discussion.
Focus on history, not politics.
Except the history is political.
I don't think it is.
I dont think it is, either. And I don't think he really believes that.
Man, I hate sarcasm.
This was just an interesting read in Coin World of a historical piece.
OF A PERSON THAT WAS GIVEN FREEDOM
If "he" is me, I most certainly do believe it.
It is an interesting read on a historical piece. It is, however, rather hard to say anything other than "how pretty" without delving into the politics and history of the piece. [Which happened almost immediately.]
But, I'll get out of this thread and save you the trouble of further comment.
@DCW said: @Zoins
The Garrett specimen is awesome, but why in the world would it be unholed?
I wonder how much the present example sold for?
The Garrett specimen could have been unissued.
The Garrett specimen could also have been issued to a freed slave who left Charleston and , therefore, never wore it.
A less likely explanation would be that the owner wore it by mounting it differently - bezel. But given the lack of wear, I imagine the first two speculations are more likely the case.
Interesting historical find. The cap is called a "Phrygian" or a Liberty cap. Similar to early US 1/2 cent and 1 cent coins, the Phrygian cap is hanging on vertical pole.
I am in Charleston, and we are about to open an African American Museum. Maybe this discovery will be shared and displayed there?
As to the virtue signaling posted on page 1 of this thread, does anyone seriously believe that they have to clarify they are anti-slavery. I would hope that is a given in 2021.
@Sweetpie said:
Discussions of history (and politics) aside, I'm surprised there's no additional info on the name of the original owner.
It would be a great to connect a name to this badge instead of a numder.
Hard to know. Depends on whether those records remain. A lot of things got burned down over 200 years, especially during the Civil War. Paper records get lost and often didn't have back-ups.
True story. My grandmother was born in Mount Jewett Pennsylvania in 1903. Her name was Mary Jo (actually Maria Giuseppina). The town hall burned down in the 1920s along with all birth records. When she had to register for Social Security in 1937, the only records of her existence were school records where the French Catholic nuns had insisted on calling her Genevieve. As a result, she had to work for the rest of her life as Genevieve.
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There is nothing political about that statement.
I don't think it is in this instance. I think you are reading things that aren't there.
Man, I > @Zoins said:
I dont think it is, either. And I don't think he really believes that.
Man, I hate sarcasm.
This was just an interesting read in Coin World of a historical piece.
OF A PERSON THAT WAS GIVEN FREEDOM
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
If "he" is me, I most certainly do believe it.
It is an interesting read on a historical piece. It is, however, rather hard to say anything other than "how pretty" without delving into the politics and history of the piece. [Which happened almost immediately.]
But, I'll get out of this thread and save you the trouble of further comment.
The Garrett specimen could have been unissued.
The Garrett specimen could also have been issued to a freed slave who left Charleston and , therefore, never wore it.
A less likely explanation would be that the owner wore it by mounting it differently - bezel. But given the lack of wear, I imagine the first two speculations are more likely the case.
Interesting historical find. The cap is called a "Phrygian" or a Liberty cap. Similar to early US 1/2 cent and 1 cent coins, the Phrygian cap is hanging on vertical pole.
I am in Charleston, and we are about to open an African American Museum. Maybe this discovery will be shared and displayed there?
As to the virtue signaling posted on page 1 of this thread, does anyone seriously believe that they have to clarify they are anti-slavery. I would hope that is a given in 2021.
Indian Head $10 Gold Date Set Album
Discussions of history (and politics) aside, I'm surprised there's no additional info on the name of the original owner.
It would be a great to connect a name to this badge instead of a numder.
Hard to know. Depends on whether those records remain. A lot of things got burned down over 200 years, especially during the Civil War. Paper records get lost and often didn't have back-ups.
True story. My grandmother was born in Mount Jewett Pennsylvania in 1903. Her name was Mary Jo (actually Maria Giuseppina). The town hall burned down in the 1920s along with all birth records. When she had to register for Social Security in 1937, the only records of her existence were school records where the French Catholic nuns had insisted on calling her Genevieve. As a result, she had to work for the rest of her life as Genevieve.