@robbylu52 said:
A 1822 half eagle is like a Rembrandt A.19th century masterpiece blue chip investment. One of the greatest coins. Legitimately rare, not relying on some add on like fb fs fh etc. to achieve rarity. I think people are missing the point of inherently rare vs conditionally rare. A 1961 nickel is still a high mintage more modern coin, as opposed to very rare older low population established collector coins that will always be in demand.
Here's a well struck/very detailed 1961-P, being the Master hub was in its 24 year of production. Deep hairlines, end steps, top of windows and especially, the illusive quarter segment under the 3rd pillar is peeking out. The steps definitely have not been compensated due to an overall lesser strike. A little marky but resides in a PCGS MS65, no FS holder, likely due to a mistaken identification calling the strike-thru under the 3rd pillar a nick. But that's alright, I know what it is and that's all that matters. Sharing so others can see what a great example for this date looks like.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
@leothelyon said:
Here's a well struck/very detailed 1961-P, being the Master hub was in its 24 year of production. Deep hairlines, end steps, top of windows and especially, the illusive quarter segment under the 3rd pillar is peeking out. The steps definitely have not been compensated due to an overall lesser strike. A little marky but resides in a PCGS MS65, no FS holder, likely due to a mistaken identification calling the strike-thru under the 3rd pillar a nick. But that's alright, I know what it is and that's all that matters. Sharing so others can see what a great example for this date looks like.
Leo
Shouldn't a strike through also prevent FS designation?
Your knowledge is impressive. Just think the modern coin designs from the mint were bland. So I am not a fan of Washington quarters Roosevelt dimes Franklin halves, except for Franklin cameos. Jefferson nickels I think were a little more pizzazz in their design. Best of luck collecting your Jefferson’s
Still respectfully think the full step designation is overrated and minor and not warranted for a 1000 times multiple over a non full step 1961. Just my humble opinion
Think full head is a bigger more important older defined designation. It is more readily visible to the eye affecting the overall strike. Still wouldn’t pay hundreds of time multiples no matter how rare the fh is.
Well in all these cases I would buy red browns that are close to red, not paying close to full red price. Franklins that are well struck, full bell lines don’t personally mean that much to me, blast white if not over dipped must have super luster, toned if light and attractive and not to many multiples of white, ms 64+ if not multiples over 64 as this is similar to a 64 with a green sticker.
@wrighty said:
I think the only thing you can do is vet a number of 1961 nickels with your discerning eye and submit to the grading services to ascertain their legitimacy.
I see what you did there... lol
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@leothelyon said:
Here's a well struck/very detailed 1961-P, being the Master hub was in its 24 year of production. Deep hairlines, end steps, top of windows and especially, the illusive quarter segment under the 3rd pillar is peeking out. The steps definitely have not been compensated due to an overall lesser strike. A little marky but resides in a PCGS MS65, no FS holder, likely due to a mistaken identification calling the strike-thru under the 3rd pillar a nick. But that's alright, I know what it is and that's all that matters. Sharing so others can see what a great example for this date looks like.
Leo
If the steps do fit... resubmit!
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@robbylu52 said:
If I am buying a late date common coin it would be a 1955 double die penny or a 1942/1 dime which are major established rarity’s and have dramatic eye appeal
Neither of which is rare.
You can find them at even small shows and on every aisle at a major show...
Doubt you will find one 1966 FS in MS66
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ysp sales. So I can’t find a full step Jefferson at a show. This is a esoteric niche market that’s also why. See how much dealer interest their is in your full step nickel as opposed to a key date attractive walker or mercury.
Well that’s a very niche market for millionaire collectors so why would they buy a coin of that magnitude cutting a check for 6-8 million without a buyer in hand
I'm still trying to figure why it takes 12 posts to say the same thing you can do in one post....but I digress.
Whatever the case, if 1961 Jeff FS nickels are "overrated" eventually the price will fall to a point that satisfies demand. I know nothing about this series but maybe an expert can chime in and tell us what the market has been like for these FS nickels lately....
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NO ONE is confused about that.
I'm confused.
the 1823 looks remarkably similar to the 1822 except 1 digit. Isn't that a work of art, too? Isn't the art great, too?
The 2 makes all the difference
Here's a well struck/very detailed 1961-P, being the Master hub was in its 24 year of production. Deep hairlines, end steps, top of windows and especially, the illusive quarter segment under the 3rd pillar is peeking out. The steps definitely have not been compensated due to an overall lesser strike. A little marky but resides in a PCGS MS65, no FS holder, likely due to a mistaken identification calling the strike-thru under the 3rd pillar a nick. But that's alright, I know what it is and that's all that matters. Sharing so others can see what a great example for this date looks like.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
3's look good, too.
Barbarian!
Shouldn't a strike through also prevent FS designation?
Your knowledge is impressive. Just think the modern coin designs from the mint were bland. So I am not a fan of Washington quarters Roosevelt dimes Franklin halves, except for Franklin cameos. Jefferson nickels I think were a little more pizzazz in their design. Best of luck collecting your Jefferson’s
Still respectfully think the full step designation is overrated and minor and not warranted for a 1000 times multiple over a non full step 1961. Just my humble opinion
what about full head?
Think full head is a bigger more important older defined designation. It is more readily visible to the eye affecting the overall strike. Still wouldn’t pay hundreds of time multiples no matter how rare the fh is.
What about red vs RB? What about MS 64+ vs MS 65 ? What about full bell lines? What about toned vs blast white?
Well in all these cases I would buy red browns that are close to red, not paying close to full red price. Franklins that are well struck, full bell lines don’t personally mean that much to me, blast white if not over dipped must have super luster, toned if light and attractive and not to many multiples of white, ms 64+ if not multiples over 64 as this is similar to a 64 with a green sticker.
I see what you did there... lol
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If the steps do fit... resubmit!
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Neither of which is rare.
You can find them at even small shows and on every aisle at a major show...
Doubt you will find one 1966 FS in MS66
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I prefer to collect tarnished common date type. Me and robbylu can’t be down by the schoolyard!
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
ysp sales. So I can’t find a full step Jefferson at a show. This is a esoteric niche market that’s also why. See how much dealer interest their is in your full step nickel as opposed to a key date attractive walker or mercury.
See how easy it is to sell a 1961 fs for $15,000’ as opposed to a 1916 d at your shows
see how easy it is to sell a 1822 $5 at a show.
Well that’s a very niche market for millionaire collectors so why would they buy a coin of that magnitude cutting a check for 6-8 million without a buyer in hand
But $15k no problem for a key coin, any decent coin company can buy immediately
Shorter robby: "I'm right, you're wrong."
I'm still trying to figure why it takes 12 posts to say the same thing you can do in one post....but I digress.
Whatever the case, if 1961 Jeff FS nickels are "overrated" eventually the price will fall to a point that satisfies demand. I know nothing about this series but maybe an expert can chime in and tell us what the market has been like for these FS nickels lately....
jom
With all the talk I thought we should get photos of a MS-66 FS posted.
One I sold about 2 years ago.
I also have one available.
Pretty coin. Worth a premium yes. Huge premium I disagree
FS with a lot of die wear
Agree it is conditionally very rare but not basically rare
How much did this one sell for btw
It’s called trolling......
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Sorry, I have to respect my buyers privacy.
