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Local news feature about sports card fraud. (Jordan rookie "ghost in the aisle"?)

RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭
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This was on our local (Wichita, KS) news. I have to say I've never ever heard of the "ghost in the aisle" as a telltale sign of a real Jordan rookie vs a fake one. (Kind of disconcerting that it was a PSA 9 that was shown as an example.)

https://www.kwch.com/2021/04/06/sports-card-fraud-rampant-during-pandemic/

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  • canyoubelieveitcanyoubelieveit Posts: 239 ✭✭✭

    I find it interesting that the Jordan they identified as fake was PSA certified.

  • canyoubelieveitcanyoubelieveit Posts: 239 ✭✭✭

    Here is a link to the card in the article: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-Michael-Jordan-RC-Rookie-PSA-9-/184708040696?hash=item2b017507f8:g:fKoAAOSwnL1gSn-2&nma=true&si=maKwAyhV1e4mvBK7In1eCNVVcKM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @canyoubelieveit said:
    I find it interesting that the Jordan they identified as fake was PSA certified.

    So PSA cased a fake Jordan rookie?

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  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭✭

    Reporter isn't an expert on the subject. They're pressured to come up with stories every shift, tough business.

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭

    That is totally insane!! That card even looks bad!!! It is wayyyyyyy too dark!

  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭

    https://allvintagecards.com/spotting-a-fake-michael-jordan-rookie-card/

    All of my Jordan RCs have the "ghost in the aisle". I had never heard of that before.

    Robb

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have been in the game for 35 years and have never heard of this "ghost in the aisle"

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fake news either way, right?

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:
    fake news either way, right?

    Not quite.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2021 8:45AM

    @bobbyw8469 said:

    @blurryface said:
    fake news either way, right?

    Not quite.

    well if the card is fake, then it literally is "fake" news. and if it's real, then it's literally a "fake" news story, right? so fake news either way seems to apply.

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    I know the 100% tell tale way to identify a fake, however, the one in the ebay listing is 100% authentic. I have zero doubts that the "writer" of the story wanted to fill it in and a dealer happened to have told him a tale. Even if you are personally not certain, the "ghost" or whatever on the front isn't even the definitive sign or the only one that matters on a Jordan--it just is a horribly dark picture of a 100% genuine card.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there's a couple different ways actually from the fleer ribbon off yellows, to the 27.2, to pixelation to the player in front of jordan...

  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭

    Auction pic shot with a potato? Certainly a newsworthy call out :D

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    @initialD said:
    Auction pic shot with a potato? Certainly a newsworthy call out :D

    >

    And..Case Closed!

  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭

    where's the Ghost?

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭

    It's in that photo. Is it possible the card was switched out?

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2021 1:05PM

    "i ain't 'fraid of no ghost"

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks like Red Grange to me

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heard of "Ghost In The Machine", but this one got by me.

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  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bobbyw8469 said:
    It's in that photo. Is it possible the card was switched out?

    That's what I was wondering?

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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even in a dark picture you would be able to make out some sort of contrast and see the ghosts in the aisle to some extent. Since the flip matches the other one posted it is my opinion that somehow this card was switched out.

    Shane

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 9, 2021 5:22AM

    @frankhardy said:
    Even in a dark picture you would be able to make out some sort of contrast and see the ghosts in the aisle to some extent. Since the flip matches the other one posted it is my opinion that somehow this card was switched out.

    There is no tampering with the holder in the photo...and more importantly, the Jordan in the photo on ebay is 100% authentic. The front is simply darkened due to poor camera or whichever, but it doesn't change the back of the card--definitive real.

    Take a picture of one yourself. You can easily shade the "ghost" out and it has never been a definitive detection point anyway.

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 9, 2021 5:43AM

    Just in case you still believe it is fake, I darkened the PSA photo for you to share what the ebay lister did.

  • swish54swish54 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭✭

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭✭

    My question is, why would you sell a $43,600 card and use a picture taken with a flip phone? Real card, ignorant seller.

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 9, 2021 8:53AM

    @secretstash said:
    Just in case you still believe it is fake, I darkened the PSA photo for you to share what the ebay lister did.

    OK, you win. I am convinced.

    That was just my first impression.

    Hey, wait a second ....that one on the right looks fake.... It is not even the right proportion!

    Shane

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jeffcbay said:
    My question is, why would you sell a $43,600 card and use a picture taken with a flip phone? Real card, ignorant seller.

    Well, if you believe that all 9s are the same. . . But, then, why use pictures at all?

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    @frankhardy said:

    @secretstash said:
    Just in case you still believe it is fake, I darkened the PSA photo for you to share what the ebay lister did.

    Hey, wait a second ....that one on the right looks fake.... It is not even the right proportion!

    Not sure if this was still a question, but it was done by me when I superimposed the ebay listing on the psa image during resizing too quickly after the color tone change.

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @secretstash said:

    @frankhardy said:

    @secretstash said:
    Just in case you still believe it is fake, I darkened the PSA photo for you to share what the ebay lister did.

    Hey, wait a second ....that one on the right looks fake.... It is not even the right proportion!

    Not sure if this was still a question, but it was done by me when I superimposed the ebay listing on the psa image during resizing too quickly after the color tone change.

    I was just kidding

    Shane

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