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Scammy Ebay Sellers

Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭
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Wow. Saw this today. Sent the guy a message saying "Hey, I think you accidentally priced this 100x too high."

His response? "Some Barry fan might go for it."

So he acknowledges he's trying to scam some superfan into paying 100x too much. It's times like these I wish you could leave comments on people's posts...

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t think this is a scam. Nobody needs this stuff and he doesn’t get access to your bank account if you click on the listing.

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    I don’t think this is a scam. Nobody needs this stuff and he doesn’t get access to your bank account if you click on the listing.

    He's trying to scam people into paying 100x more than it's worth. Luckily, no one is likely to go for it, but the scam doesn't have to be successful to still be a scam.

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So how many of these are scams then? They are all not priced the same. Is only the cheapest one offered the legit offering?
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=1989+barry+psa+9+traded&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=16&_odkw=1989+barry+psa+8+traded&_osacat=0&rt=nc

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 206 ✭✭✭

    also maybe this is unlikely here - but things have been moving quickly - if you had a harden chrome psa 10 BIN 9k when it was going for 4k and forgot about if for the last 3 months you actually missed out on 15k because it is now 25k

    if you look back at 2 years the 2008 chrome kobe lebron card in psa 10 its actually up 100x in 2 years....so maybe he thinks the same thing will happen and will just list it and check in on in in a few years....

    Agree he knows its over priced right now, but nothing makes sense anymore, just dont buy it and move on - unless you think it is counterfeit...

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 206 ✭✭✭

    sorry 200x

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I actually just bought it in my mind and made it a NFT. Now Im pissed.

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 206 ✭✭✭

    well I sold it for 2k in dec - I am pissed too :-)

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 206 ✭✭✭

    and a harden 60 days ago for 6500 - lol

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    I'm guessing you've never ventured onto a used car lot...

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...or a new car lot, for that matter...

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this guys scam works. I think everyone on this board is going to be a billionaire. Mark this post.
    I said it first.

  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    Afternoon,

    Seems to be a Tad Bit Hyprocritical when the prevailing advice around here is " Throw it up on E-bay with a Ridiculous BIN and somebody will Buy It!)" Time and Time again!

    Yeah!

    neil

  • ringerringer Posts: 342 ✭✭✭

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    Sorry but this is not a scam and there is nothing dishonest about it. The card is fairly and accurately presented and it is up to the buyer to decide whether it is worth it. That is the way EVERY sale happens.

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    I'm guessing you've never ventured onto a used car lot...

    Funny - I totally had written out that as an example and then deleted it.

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2021 1:30PM

    @ringer said:

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    Sorry but this is not a scam and there is nothing dishonest about it. The card is fairly and accurately presented and it is up to the buyer to decide whether it is worth it. That is the way EVERY sale happens.

    Price gouging is fair?

    Def: "Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair."

    I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 8 sold a week ago for $20.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Topps-Traded-Barry-Sanders-Psa-8/294068657815?hash=item4477db9e97:g:8AEAAOSwyVBgSDe~

    Eric
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  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @ringer said:

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    Sorry but this is not a scam and there is nothing dishonest about it. The card is fairly and accurately presented and it is up to the buyer to decide whether it is worth it. That is the way EVERY sale happens.

    Price gouging is fair?

    Def: "Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair."

    I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

    Price Gouging:
    an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited:

    I know I would not be able to survive if I didn't have a PSA 8 Barry sanders.

    #LetsGoSwitzerlandThe Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read. The biggest obstacle to progress is a habit of “buying what we want and begging for what we need.”You get the Freedom you fight for and get the Oppression you deserve.
  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @Alfonz24 said:

    Price Gouging:
    an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited:

    I know I would not be able to survive if I didn't have a PSA 8 Barry sanders.

    I've read this 5 times. Can't find anything about surviving being a criteria. Maybe you could point it out.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If someone is dumb enough to spend anywhere close to $3500 for that 8 when for the same price they could get a couple 10’s,numerous more 9’s,a couple autographed copies and a different 8 thrown in for the hell of it then shame on them for not taking an additional 60 seconds to find a cheaper copy.
    Knowing eBay there would probably be ten cheaper PSA graded ‘89 TT Sanders recommendations that would be viewable in the very same listing,at that point if someone still wants to spend all of that money then all that could be said is....

    Eric
    Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
    Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486

  • magician45magician45 Posts: 63 ✭

    Buyer beware. If there is a false claim, in the description that is a different matter. For example saying it's an original 86 Fleer Jordan when it is a reprint. But if the description is accurate and it is just a high price I don't think it can be classified as a scam. Contractors try to sell high quotes all the time to try to catch fish.

  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 499 ✭✭✭✭

    Not a scam. Definitely laughable. Deans cards come to mind but hey some of his are not the most expensive now. A fool and his dollars are.......... ?

  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 499 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it was April fools. :)

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @sayheywyo said:
    Maybe it was April fools. :)

    If anyone buys it, we've found the fool. :D

  • ScoobyDoo2ScoobyDoo2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2021 3:00PM

    To me the scam is then charging $4.45 shipping.... at least throw in free shipping while you buy more Microsoft in your schwab account with the 3.5k. This guy really is heartless.

  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree that this is not a scam or dishonest. He's being completely honest. Obviously, it won't sell, but he certainly can put it up for any price he desires.

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  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭

    Come on guys, in the old days we would send this guy 100 offers for about $3. Remember when the guy got mad because we were making an item "hot" by placing bids in 5 cent increments?

    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • ringerringer Posts: 342 ✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2021 4:12PM

    @Alfonz24 said:

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @ringer said:

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    Sorry but this is not a scam and there is nothing dishonest about it. The card is fairly and accurately presented and it is up to the buyer to decide whether it is worth it. That is the way EVERY sale happens.

    Price gouging is fair?

    Def: "Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair."

    I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

    Price Gouging:
    an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited:

    I know I would not be able to survive if I didn't have a PSA 8 Barry sanders.

    Exactly. Gouging occurs with necessary foods in times of emergencies. It occurs when people have no choice but to pay a manipulated price. Not with sports cards when lower prices are plentifully available. It’s not because someone wants to maximize their price. This accusation is ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding of both markets and gouging.

  • ringerringer Posts: 342 ✭✭✭

    And instead of going to Wikipedia for a definition, try something authoritative.

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    @ringer said:
    And instead of going to Wikipedia for a definition, try something authoritative.

    Yes, it is illegal in times of emergency. It's still non-illegal price gouging in times of non-emergency. ("Certain circumstances") I never once argued what he was doing was illegal. Just scammy.

  • 19591959 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭

    It says "or best offer". Best offer could be 10.00. Not a scam, just looking for un-knowledgeable buyer.

  • ringerringer Posts: 342 ✭✭✭

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @ringer said:
    And instead of going to Wikipedia for a definition, try something authoritative.

    Yes, it is illegal in times of emergency. It's still non-illegal price gouging in times of non-emergency. ("Certain circumstances") I never once argued what he was doing was illegal. Just scammy.

    Ok. But no one agrees with you.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gouging is when there's no viable choice.
    this ebay listing can be easily passed by.
    this is america and he has every right to price his card how he wants.
    you don't have to like it, but you at least have to respect his right to be able to do so.
    nothing more than free speech w an ebay listing.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope. As long as you'll get that precise Sanders if you Buy It Now, then the seller is doing nothing wrong. Scammers buy Randy Arozarena cards for $1000 and return them when he breaks a leg. Scammers sell gold bullion on eBay then cancel the sale when gold goes up $100 per ounce. Scammers list a PSA 6 '75 Brett and then ship one with a different serial number without stating "Stock Photo" and arguably if they do. Scammers knowingly list fake cards. Scammers post pictures of PSA 9 (OC) '80 Hendersons but write "PSA 9" in the title.

    Stupid pricing for a common card is not even close.

  • picklepetepicklepete Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    @Copyboy1 said:

    @handyman said:
    "no one is likely to go for it,"

    Then who cares. Hes not forcing anyone to do anything.

    I care. Because I care when people are dishonest. The dude even admitted he knew it wasn't worth that much - he just wanted to try and sucker someone into buying it.

    Geezz if this gets u worked up I hate to see when stuff now a days in the real world gets to you !
    Breath deep.. its ebay not worth the energy..

  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    He's obviously just utilizing the Blackrose289 method of selling.

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    Yes, but isn't farting illegal in California?

    @ringer said:
    And instead of going to Wikipedia for a definition, try something authoritative.

  • MartinHMartinH Posts: 29 ✭

    Some sellers list Items at crazy prices to attract buyers to their other items. At times I have been lured in to their listings out of curiosity. My basic rule of thumb is to ignore. Entertaining them with a contact is out of the question when it could be a marketing ploy or a scam - Just not worth the effort

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