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What do you think Ca10 on the PCGS holder means??

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well PCGS certainly missed this !!

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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OMG! I thought you read and memorized Resplandores cover to cover and could recite it backwards in your sleep while chewing gum?

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    OMG! I thought you read and memorized Resplandores cover to cover and could recite it backwards in your sleep while chewing gum?

    No only you can do that .

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Calico 10. It is a variety identifier. You will have to look it up in Calico's book on Mexican coins.

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2021 11:39AM

    @thefinn said:
    Calico 10. It is a variety identifier. You will have to look it up in Calico's book on Mexican coins.

    Thank you

    According to D&P this coin is a rare variety missing the ‘s’ after 10 D ..... D&P says
    “ exceeding rare “

    If calico 10 reflects that then fine but I would rather it be clearly on the PCGS holder as I doubt others would see the variety as it reads now.

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2021 4:30PM

    Cleared up below


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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2021 9:51AM

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I doubt Calicó references the specific variety, as Resplandores is way more detailed in that sense. Most likely both PCGS and the submitter simply didn't realize its a variety.

    When I bought this coin I missed it as well. Now you might say I am gleefully surprised that I caught this . :)

    I have more than a handful of pcgs 8 reales coins that don't reflect the correct variety or missed overdates .

    I am reviewing every coin in my collection ...closely.

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    ELuisELuis Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have seen that, on many of my searchs while trying to look for a 8R, also have noticed on the auction descriptions that nomenclature too, when I checked on PCGS, I see that the value seams to reflects a Prefix of the Mint and a Rank, I guess.

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't opened that reference in a while, but isn't that the Resplandores internal cataloging code?


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    ELuisELuis Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I haven't opened that reference in a while, but isn't that the Resplandores internal cataloging code?

    Looks like what they refer on the auction descriptions:

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I haven't opened that reference in a while, but isn't that the Resplandores internal cataloging code?

    This looks like PCGS code .

    PCGS does not show any specimen with the “s”missing or other varieties.

    NGC pops note these :

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I haven't opened that reference in a while, but isn't that the Resplandores internal cataloging code?

    Looks like what they refer on the auction descriptions:

    That's what I thought. CA-10 seems to refer to DP-CA10, which is Dunigan & Parker (Resplandores) reference for probably the 10th coin in their Chihuahua Mint category. Actually glad PCGS uses that nomenclature. But now the trick is to get them to recognize and attribute the variety.


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    realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 363 ✭✭✭

    Calico (AKA Numismatica Espanola) only covers Mexican Colonial - NOT Independent Mexico. Happy Saturday, everyone! :p

    Ca10 is indeed Dunigan's numbering code from "Resplandores". I don't have the book, but a quick search shows "Ca09" is 1838 and "Ca11" is 1840 - so clearly "Ca10" covers the entirety of 1839-RG emissions (the 10th distinct date/assayer combo for the Chihuahua series).

    I'm guessing there is no separate subcode for the "no S" variety shown here - even though it apparently IS explicitly mentioned in Dunigan??

    Regardless, bidask, if you show PCGS a pic of Dunigan's writeup in the book and also that NGC recognizes it, I'm sure "No S after 10D" could (and should) be noted on the holder. Specifically acknowledging this variety seems MUCH more important than including the relatively pointless Dunigan code.

    Very nice accidental cherrypick!! And with perfect original skin...

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @realeswatcher said:
    Calico (AKA Numismatica Espanola) only covers Mexican Colonial - NOT Independent Mexico. Happy Saturday, everyone! :p

    I blame my original post on lack of sleep and general exhaustion associated with 2 kids under 3 :)


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