To break even on that lot, you couldn't bid over $6.50, after factoring in the shipping. The card may be "antique", but the tape sure doesn't appear to be. Old tape turns yellow and becomes brittle, and don't you think it's odd that the coins are all upside down?. If you're going to gamble, your chances are probably better with a few lottery tickets.
I sent this seller the following message through the Ebay "Ask the seller a question"
What a joke!!! "We never turned these coins over to see if there was a 1916 D!" Maybe you should start selling the unsearched bags of wheat pennies! LOL you guys crack me up!
And this is the reply that I received:
The original message was received at Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:06:40 -0700 from cellphone.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.43.13]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <bpcmail@yahoo.com> (reason: 554 delivery error: dd Sorry, your message to bpcmail@yahoo.com cannot be delivered. This account is over quota. - mta515.mail.yahoo.com)
I bought one of these "16D"s and it turned out to be real. Well, not as a bulk coin, but a 16D in a mail bid sale. At least it is in a PCGS holder now (my first submitted coin)
Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
Is anybody else getting really sick of that stupid picture? Like counterfeiting is some gigantic concern. Did these people get busted at one point, and are trying to salvage a reputation? Give it a rest already.
I'll bet that Snyder guy will be laughing all the way to the bank, and be thinking "Yup! There's a sucker born every minute." More like a dozen that were willing to pay too much. Truly pathetic.
Well, I thought I would add a little. When they were under their old name, bpcoins (or whatever it was) I ordered a nice walker from them and never got it. After a couple weeks the owner told me that an employee of his was stealing coins and he promptly refunded my money and gave me a $10 gift certificate for a future auction.
So maybe this person isn't all bad in dealing with customers.
Is there some distinguishing feature from the obverse die that you could tell a 1916-D from its P and S counterparts??
(I am not trying to insinuate that Blue Moon didn't flip the coins over, but rather trying to see if there is a way to validate an authentic 1916-D from the obverse.)
With the coins as worn as they are, I doubt any obverse diagnostic could even be seen.
The auction is silly. First of all, that folder does not date from the teens (not that he says it does). Judging by the graphics on it, it is mid-to-late '30s.
Second, BOY are those coins worn. They sure don't look like they were pulled from circulation anytime near when the coins were issued.
Third, those coins have been moved in and out of that folder repeatedly. Look at the folder, it's even ripped where coins were removed and replaced.
Fourth, if the coins belonged to a "collector," you can bet he/she would have checked the reverses, and my guess is that a '16-D would have been kept in a more -- ahem -- distinctive holder.
Fifth, that tape is transparent tape, not celluloid, and couldn't be more than 20 or so years old.
This could well be an "unsearched folder, sold as purchased" -- but to hype the auction this way and falsely raise hopes? A blot on the noble escutcheon of Blue Moon.
"The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."
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Jim
For some life lasts a short while, but the memories it holds last forever.
-Laura Swenson
In memory of BL, SM, and KG. 16 and forever young, rest in peace.
What a joke!!! "We never turned these coins over to see if there was a 1916 D!" Maybe you should start selling the unsearched bags of wheat pennies!
LOL you guys crack me up!
And this is the reply that I received:
The original message was received at Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:06:40 -0700
from cellphone.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.43.13]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<bpcmail@yahoo.com>
(reason: 554 delivery error: dd Sorry, your message to bpcmail@yahoo.com cannot be delivered. This account is over quota. - mta515.mail.yahoo.com)
These guys are such scumbags
Frank
These Guys are Nuts !!!!
peacockcoins
Russ, NCNE
Jim
So maybe this person isn't all bad in dealing with customers.
Neil
Is there some distinguishing feature from the obverse die that you could tell a 1916-D from its P and S counterparts??
(I am not trying to insinuate that Blue Moon didn't flip the coins over, but rather trying to see if there is a way to validate an authentic 1916-D from the obverse.)
The auction is silly. First of all, that folder does not date from the teens (not that he says it does). Judging by the graphics on it, it is mid-to-late '30s.
Second, BOY are those coins worn. They sure don't look like they were pulled from circulation anytime near when the coins were issued.
Third, those coins have been moved in and out of that folder repeatedly. Look at the folder, it's even ripped where coins were removed and replaced.
Fourth, if the coins belonged to a "collector," you can bet he/she would have checked the reverses, and my guess is that a '16-D would have been kept in a more -- ahem -- distinctive holder.
Fifth, that tape is transparent tape, not celluloid, and couldn't be more than 20 or so years old.
This could well be an "unsearched folder, sold as purchased" -- but to hype the auction this way and falsely raise hopes? A blot on the noble escutcheon of Blue Moon.
William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night