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Willymac
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Clearly basketball has been killing it lately - I have sold many things that were already up 10x from where they were a few years ago that went up another 5x in the last few months.....
That said when I look at who the respective vintage kobe/lebron is for baseball, its clearly jeter/griffey....
So am I nuts in thinking that when a 2005 TC refractor jeter in psa 10 with a pop of 4 and a 2005 TC refractor Kobe with a pop of 28 have a difference in price of 250 vs 4000 is prob a good buy?
I just feel like the market passed baseball given we had such a sucky season last year....
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it has much more to do with basketball being a global market and huge dollars from Asia being added to the hobby
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
baseball is still way bigger globally....but I hear what you are trying to say....
This boom took place with a short baseball season. We’ll find out if the return of a baseball season energizes the already hot baseball card market. I think it will.
No, it really isn’t. Basketball is much more popular.
Whoa, I think this is wrong. Basketball has an estimated 2.2 Billion fans globally. Baseball is about 500 Million. Yes, baseball is still very popular is places like Japan and the Dominican Republic and the third most popular sport in the US but Basketball is by far the more popular sport in China and the USA.
I'm a much bigger baseball fan than basketball but basketball overtook baseball years ago.
This might be peanuts in the basketball world.
Vintage accelerating. Only a few examples:
sorry global baseball revenues are 20% higher than NBA...Its really not close with 68mm in attendance vs <20mm vs NBA
What does attendance have to do with online sales of cards and other memorabilia? Listen, I collect baseball cards and I don’t collect basketball. But I can’t deny the truth about the global popularity of hoops.
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Nothing - that wasn't the premise of my response, my response was about basketball being larger globally....
My theory which we shall see whether it proves out or not (e.g. make money or not) is that the missed season (essentially) last year delayed the mega spike in baseball cards like has happened in vintage basketball and baseball (e.g. pre mainstream grading when many of us had a completely different definition of GEM MINT)....ergo pop 4 90's griffey, jeter, international starts like Ichiro, are likely to spike as we hopefully have a solid season this year and jeter gets his HOF speech etc...and as the hedge funds that have been buying high end cards look for more value....pop 4 same vintage series baseball mega stars vs pop 50 same vintage series mega basketball stars
Basketball 82 games, baseball 162.
Basketball stadiums 20k capacity, baseball 40-60K
math.
exactly....so this should be interesting...
thanks for all the discussions!!!
do you realize how popular NBA is in china? head, shoulders, elbows and knees above MLB. If there was an NBA team in China, I don't think you could build a big enough stadium.
for a little perspective, 1 in 5 human beings worldwide are Chinese. their population is staggering and they love NBA basketball.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
fair point...will be interesting to see how this plays out...
On the basketball side of the house.
I've got one that has amazed me to no end!
I'm not a BKB collector but do have some that I pick up every now and again but unfortunately "not" Jordan.
So a few years ago, I decided I wanted a nice "10" but stayed away from Fleer (86-88) - even for 1988.
Then, I decided to look at Kenner and found a 1988 Kenner Jordan PSA 10 for $187.
(my scanner is making the blue look pale for some reason?)
I saw this recently.
I'm gonna guess the allure? The 10 is a POP 37.
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Nice ROI on that card.
no, no, no.
what craig and everybody else said. and this is coming from a predominately baseball guy.
"and if ya can't beat'em..."
very smart man. went the same route, just not as soon or graded. was scooping up any of the figures i could (w centered cards inside) for under $50 for the longest time. stopped a while back and shocked to see them going for $400 per now. kept the best looking ones intact and just submitted a stack last month. we'll see what happens...
Love the Kenner MJ card. Nice one Mike!
I grabbed a bunch of 90 Jordans on the cheap awhile back. I figured that you couldn't go wrong with 2 cards included. Prices are moving up now, like all things Jordan.
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Hahah yep, just surgically removed this one from the packaging. Looks 8.5 9 ish?? Love the dark blue color and Mike that 10 is a unicorn
my goodness. I am going to go look for all my childhood jordans.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
not just jordan slus. pretty much any of the basketball ones are doubling each month. '88 fleer basketball is sp'd compared to baseball. and '88 slus are sp'd to fleer basketball. so....
SLU basketball are very difficult to grade out in high grades. I periodically try to upgrade my #3 registry set by self submittals and rarely find decent raw cards. I also find (for baseball and basketball) the cards sealed in the packages have rough corners from moving around in the package.
agreed. and trying to get them out these days is a challenge. seems like the plastic and adhesive has almost cemented.
I kind of like removing them and feeling like a surgeon. They can be tough and the cardboard is a lot tougher than it looks. So tough in high grade and look so sharp if the unicorns can be found.