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Lost in the wilderness - could you survive?

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 6, 2021 9:58AM in Sports Talk

If you were lost in the wilderness, do you think you could survive? You have no tent for shelter, you have enough food and water for one day then you'll be out. You have no matches or lighter for fire. You'll have to live off of the land.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With or without any gear?

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    With or without any gear?

    I edited the introduction, I didn't think about all of that. 😂😂

  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Max for me would be one day, which should get me to a motel or a house with a farmer's daughter.

  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20 to 50 years ago I'd say I'll make it. Now at my advanced age and without the 18 pills I take each day I'd say I'm in big trouble. But my attitude is I'd try to find civilization until I couldn't go any more.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a chance without any cutting or fire tools.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've read articles on the subject, and understand how to do it. I've hunted and fished a fair amount, and figured if for some reason i got totally lost in the wilderness, it'd be a good idea to know that chit.

    If it was warm enough, i wouldn't have any problem. However if it was ice cold in the winter, and unable to find a cave or some shelter like that, i'd never make it past a day.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    I've read articles on the subject, and understand how to do it. I've hunted and fished a fair amount, and figured if for some reason i got totally lost in the wilderness, it'd be a good idea to know that chit.

    If it was warm enough, i wouldn't have any problem. However if it was ice cold in the winter, and unable to find a cave or some shelter like that, i'd never make it past a day.

    Insanely hard to hunt or fish with just the clothes on your back. Even the so called professional bushcraft/Survivalist on YouTube have some gear.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 10:29AM

    I've always heard if you're lost, to try and find a river or stream and follow it downward. I've been watching the TV show "Dual Survival" a lot lately. Of course, on the show, they always give them a few supplies they can use, but sometimes they have to make fire by friction and It is insane to watch them do it.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check this out, they make fire by friction.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HmEGn1aPLP4

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    With or without any beer?

    Fixed

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @softparade said:

    @perkdog said:
    With or without any beer?

    Fixed

    Hahaha And just like that out of nowhere we get a Dan sighting! 👏🍻

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For any of the sports talk brethren who are thinking about going hiking in the wilderness, here is a book you should read just in case you get lost and have to survive. Happy reading and bon appetit!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the book above, there is an excellent recipe for earthworm casserole on page 120!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cricket pot pie, page 132!

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it was in my new england environment I would be alright. I have spent significant time in the woods and I could make it happen. with that little gear, it wouldn't be comfortable though. I always carry at least one blade. I would be good for 2 or 3 weeks anyway and if I couldn't find civilization by then, I probably don't deserve to live.

    now, if you dropped me in the middle of a rain forest or a desert, all bets are off. I would cry myself to sleep the first night and have to drink my own tears to survive until the next day. then I would be a goner.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 5:01PM

    My problem with trying to survive in a rainforest is the spiders. Check out this spider, it's call the "Goliath Bird Eater" and is the worlds largest spider. It lives in the South American rain forests, and has the leg span of a child's forearm and weighs as much as a puppy. It can pierce a skull with it's fangs. No thank you.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    My problem with trying to survive in a rainforest is the spiders. Check out this spider, it's call the "Goliath Bird Eater" and is the worlds largest spider. It lives in the South American rain forests, and has the leg span of a child's forearm and weighs as much as a puppy. It can pierce a skull with it's fangs. No thank you.

    yup, we don't have those critters up here In N.E. I would definitely cry and probably need a change of pants if I saw one of those.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just opened this thread for the first time, seventeen responses, I haven't read through it yet, I just skipped down to write this....

    Is this part of the registration to sign up for the forum meet and greet?

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    If it was in my new england environment I would be alright. I have spent significant time in the woods and I could make it happen. with that little gear, it wouldn't be comfortable though. I always carry at least one blade. I would be good for 2 or 3 weeks anyway and if I couldn't find civilization by then, I probably don't deserve to live.

    now, if you dropped me in the middle of a rain forest or a desert, all bets are off. I would cry myself to sleep the first night and have to drink my own tears to survive until the next day. then I would be a goner.

    I know that OP is asking about what would you do with no gear, but in all seriousness I am of the mind to always have a few goodies in my EDC.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @craig44 said:
    If it was in my new england environment I would be alright. I have spent significant time in the woods and I could make it happen. with that little gear, it wouldn't be comfortable though. I always carry at least one blade. I would be good for 2 or 3 weeks anyway and if I couldn't find civilization by then, I probably don't deserve to live.

    now, if you dropped me in the middle of a rain forest or a desert, all bets are off. I would cry myself to sleep the first night and have to drink my own tears to survive until the next day. then I would be a goner.

    I know that OP is asking about what would you do with no gear, but in all seriousness I am of the mind to always have a few goodies in my EDC.

    oh yeah, I have some useful things in my edc as well and a get home bag in each vehicle. I also carry a 64 ounce yeti just about everywhere i go. I really consider it part of my edc even though it doesnt fit in my pocket.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what would you win?

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No EDC is complete unless it includes a firearm. Case closed and it’s not even remotely debatable

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2021 10:23AM

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Northwest airlines. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2021 10:37AM

    There are actually a handful of suspects in the D.B. Cooper case that look like they could be the real deal. Here is a link to a few of them that look pretty solid. I will always believe it was Kenny, yes, I am firmly entrenched in camp Kenny and I'm not budging!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/themountainnewswa.net/2012/02/23/suspects-in-the-db-cooper-skyjacking-sketches-pictures-and-comparisons/amp/

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

    You know, this has peaked my interest in the case again, and I've been looking at some websites and there are actually a lot more suspects than I thought. I'm not so sure who it really was now. I've decided to depart from camp Kenny and do some more investigating!

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this is getting juicy

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

    You know, this has peaked my interest in the case again, and I've been looking at some websites and there are actually a lot more suspects than I thought. I'm not so sure who it really was now. I've decided to depart from camp Kenny and do some more investigating!

    Frankly i don't think D.B. survived the jump, and his dead body wound up making a nice meal for the condors, bears, wolves, mountain lions, or whatever carnivores roam that area.

    I think it was more of a suicide jump, than anything else. The money was just a ruse.

    The theories about survival are fun to discuss, such as the Escape from Alcatraz guys surviving the swim. But in my view the facts of the matter outweigh the theories. And i believe the Alcatraz guys never made it either. The end result was simply gourmet shark food.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

    You know, this has peaked my interest in the case again, and I've been looking at some websites and there are actually a lot more suspects than I thought. I'm not so sure who it really was now. I've decided to depart from camp Kenny and do some more investigating!

    Frankly i don't think D.B. survived the jump, and his dead body wound up making a nice meal for the condors, bears, wolves, mountain lions, or whatever carnivores roam that area.

    I think it was more of a suicide jump, than anything else. The money was just a ruse.

    The theories about survival are fun to discuss, such as the Escape from Alcatraz guys surviving the swim. But in my view the facts of the matter outweigh the theories. And i believe the Alcatraz guys never made it either. The end result was simply gourmet shark food.

    It's interesting that you would bring up the famous escape from Alcatraz, I was just thinking about that. I don't think they made it either. Some guys actually tried to simulate the escape on a documentary a while back, of course the materials they used to make the raft were a bit different, but the results were failure. The flow of the water kept them from making progress, and they eventually gave up. When the escape actually happened, they actually found a lot of possessions from the inmates, personal letters from family and stuff like that, things the inmates wouldn't have wanted to part with unless they absolutely had to, which means things didn't go well. My guess is, they made it a little ways out, and the water took over from their and they drowned.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2021 11:59AM

    You know, a man claiming to be John Dillinger wrote a letter back in the 60s about how he survived and that the man killed at the Biograph Theater back in the 30s was a body double. The man included a photo of himself with the letter. Jay Robert Nash wrote a book about it. Here is the book and the photo of the man claiming to be John Dillinger himself.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the man's photo when compared to a photo of Dillinger. The real John Dillinger is in the middle and the man claiming to be Dillinger is on the outsides.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jay Robert Nash actually became obsessed with the man that claimed he was John Dillinger and wrote another book about it.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

    You know, this has peaked my interest in the case again, and I've been looking at some websites and there are actually a lot more suspects than I thought. I'm not so sure who it really was now. I've decided to depart from camp Kenny and do some more investigating!

    Frankly i don't think D.B. survived the jump, and his dead body wound up making a nice meal for the condors, bears, wolves, mountain lions, or whatever carnivores roam that area.

    I think it was more of a suicide jump, than anything else. The money was just a ruse.

    The theories about survival are fun to discuss, such as the Escape from Alcatraz guys surviving the swim. But in my view the facts of the matter outweigh the theories. And i believe the Alcatraz guys never made it either. The end result was simply gourmet shark food.

    It's interesting that you would bring up the famous escape from Alcatraz, I was just thinking about that. I don't think they made it either. Some guys actually tried to simulate the escape on a documentary a while back, of course the materials they used to make the raft were a bit different, but the results were failure. The flow of the water kept them from making progress, and they eventually gave up. When the escape actually happened, they actually found a lot of possessions from the inmates, personal letters from family and stuff like that, things the inmates wouldn't have wanted to part with unless they absolutely had to, which means things didn't go well. My guess is, they made it a little ways out, and the water took over from their and they drowned.

    Plus the extremely cold water. Also whatever they were wearing, had to have gotten wet, and wet clothing in cold weather is brutal. And of course they couldn't return, their mind frame wouldn't allow it. They were determined to carry on with the attempted escape regardless of the odds. That determination got them that far, and ultimately led to their demise.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    to address the initial question, never say never

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @stevek said:
    Let's see if we can't contact D.B. Cooper to post in this thread, and tell us how he did it.

    He jumped out of a passenger airplane in the Pacific Northwest with just a parachute and a bag full of cash, and he's never been found to have any problems.

    For what it's worth, I have studied the D.B. Cooper case, and I believe him to have been Kenny Christiansen, a man that worked for Boeing. He was a paratrooper and the details of his story are in the book "Into the Blast".

    >

    Very interesting. That's the most credible pic along with your comment about the paratrooper, that i've seen over the years.

    I'll have to check out the story line.

    Frankly, i doubt very much that he survived the jump. I mean with all those trees covering the area, coming down on the branches would tear someone to shreds.

    I'm sure you know they found some of the money. I doubt if a survivor would have left that behind.

    Supposedly, Kenny Christiansen semi-confessed to his brother about it in 1994 before his death. I'm not 100% sure it was Christiansen, but his story is interesting. They found a lot of circumstancial evidence linking Christiansen to it as well. Check it out if you get a chance. Whoever D.B. Cooper really was, he had some major guts to jump out of that airplane in the middle of the night like that during a storm.

    Pasted from Wiki:

    Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect.[53][131] It cites a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence.[132]

    Don't take the FBI's word for it Steve, take Double D's. It was Kenny!

    I've always believed that with any story this juicy, if Christiansen was the guy, it would have been verified by now.

    So in my view, the mystery continues. :)

    You know, this has peaked my interest in the case again, and I've been looking at some websites and there are actually a lot more suspects than I thought. I'm not so sure who it really was now. I've decided to depart from camp Kenny and do some more investigating!

    Frankly i don't think D.B. survived the jump, and his dead body wound up making a nice meal for the condors, bears, wolves, mountain lions, or whatever carnivores roam that area.

    I think it was more of a suicide jump, than anything else. The money was just a ruse.

    The theories about survival are fun to discuss, such as the Escape from Alcatraz guys surviving the swim. But in my view the facts of the matter outweigh the theories. And i believe the Alcatraz guys never made it either. The end result was simply gourmet shark food.

    It's interesting that you would bring up the famous escape from Alcatraz, I was just thinking about that. I don't think they made it either. Some guys actually tried to simulate the escape on a documentary a while back, of course the materials they used to make the raft were a bit different, but the results were failure. The flow of the water kept them from making progress, and they eventually gave up. When the escape actually happened, they actually found a lot of possessions from the inmates, personal letters from family and stuff like that, things the inmates wouldn't have wanted to part with unless they absolutely had to, which means things didn't go well. My guess is, they made it a little ways out, and the water took over from their and they drowned.

    Plus the extremely cold water. Also whatever they were wearing, had to have gotten wet, and wet clothing in cold weather is brutal. And of course they couldn't return, their mind frame wouldn't allow it. They were determined to carry on with the attempted escape regardless of the odds. That determination got them that far, and ultimately led to their demise.

    I believe there was actually a fourth man that was left behind because he got stuck in the escape hole that he cut in the back of his cell. Anyway, not too long after that escape, Alacatraz was closed, the inmates might not have made it, but they ruined the Rock's reputation.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    to address the initial question, never say never

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

    Not to admonish the guy after all that, and of course he should get accolades for courage.

    That being said, i was taught at a young age to never venture into strange places alone. To this day i have never gone hunting or fishing in a new "strange" area without at least one buddy with me.

    Sorry but if this guy had a buddy with him, and not tried that alone, the incident could have ended with all limbs intact.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    to address the initial question, never say never

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

    If I remember correctly, he had a knife, it just wasn't super sharp.

    I never read the book, but after watching the movie a few times I did a sort of deep dive into what really happened and reading about this guy. This was a while ago, so I don't remember all the details.....but I was pretty fascinated with how this all took place.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would have been hard to cut my own arm off and cut through bone and everything. I can't imagine the agony of having to do that.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    man, I dont know if i could cut off my own arm. that takes some intestinal fortitude. I am not even a big fan of cutting off hangnails.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on the location of the "wilderness."

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .......and the season.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    .......and the season.

    that is the truth. Up here in the north there is a world of difference between summer and winter. winter survival adds a whole different degree of difficulty to the equation. makes the rule of 3's even more of a priority.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • N_aye098N_aye098 Posts: 2 ✭

    @doubledragon said:
    If you were lost in the wilderness, do you think you could survive? You have no tent for shelter, you have enough food and water for one day then you'll be out. You have no matches or lighter for fire. You'll have to live off of the land.

    I never forgot to carry my flashlight,
    I love to collect different types of Flashlight for life survival,

    Before selecting any from market I have to check reviews

    https://bestflashlightsreviews.com/small-flashlights-reviews/

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @N_aye098 said:

    @doubledragon said:
    If you were lost in the wilderness, do you think you could survive? You have no tent for shelter, you have enough food and water for one day then you'll be out. You have no matches or lighter for fire. You'll have to live off of the land.

    I never forgot to carry my flashlight,
    I love to collect different types of Flashlight for life survival,

    Before selecting any from market I have to check reviews

    https://bestflashlightsreviews.com/small-flashlights-reviews/

    Fenix TKr 20 is my go to

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog I think that is a marketing bot or some such thing that you quoted and who brought this thread back . Two comments, both about flashlights.

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