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PL attempt at PGGS

All I collect at the moment are Trade Dollars. I own two PCGS coins with PL designation. There are only a few that have been designated ( three I think). I picked out two other PL equivalent coins in my collection that are solid enough to get a PL designation. Both were rejected and I'm disappointed. I'll post pics at some point. So both coins would get a PL designation at another TPG. So what to do, cross and get a PL designation or hold as is? Just a rant, comment if you wish.

keoj

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  • CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    Pics or it didn't happen

  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm partial to our hosts. But, and I've never done this so I don't know if it will make a difference as well as being expensive, Take them ATS, get the PL designation, then bring them back to the right side of the street. It's either that or hold as is.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you can get a PL designation ATS do it. At some point in the future the coin will have a much greater sell point with such a designation.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    Why is Pl important, worth more as is suggested or more desireable? I am clueless with this characteristic I guess?
    Any explanation would be appreciated.

  • keojkeoj Posts: 980 ✭✭✭

    I just did a write up on this for my "book" (someday.....). In the pop of 15k Trade coins graded at PCGS, I think there are 3 coins: 77, 76, 77-s. The other TPG is more generous by about 4x the coins. But both are obviously rarified designations. The coins that I submitted were both 77's. I have two other coins that are on the bubble, a 77-s and a 78-s. I have one other coin that is quite solid but the PCGS criteria is strict of being ms60 or higher (the 76-s is 58). The other limiting criteria is BOTH sides must exhibit the attribute (and that can be hard if the reflectivity depth is biased). So my OP was a rant (getting it out of my system) and now I figure out what to do. The rant aspect is that I two reference PCGS coins to base my submission on and both coins submitted showed equivalent reflectivity to the attributed coins.

    Keoj

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trueblood said:
    Why is Pl important, worth more as is suggested or more desireable? I am clueless with this characteristic I guess?
    Any explanation would be appreciated.

    Many collectors like PL examples and will pay considerably more for them. So they can be said to be more desirable and as a result, more valuable, too.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are looking for PL coins from ATS, you might consider looking at star designated coins that are white.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    If you are looking for PL coins from ATS, you might consider looking at star designated coins that are white.

    Why limit the search to only white coins? Toned ones can be PL, too.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • keojkeoj Posts: 980 ✭✭✭

    Nice!!!!!!!!

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coins that are the on the bubble need to be submitted more then once. I can’t remember who said this here, but they will submit a coin up to four times.

    Are you submitting your coins raw?

    My sample size is small but I’ve had good luck submitting coins at a show with the grading done while the show is taking place. It’s difficult to do that now but eventually we’ll have that option available.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2021 12:27PM

    I would take PL wherever could get one - PCGS or NGC.

    Would not give up until both said nay. Once PL would probably price it per Higher CPG / TPG. Then depending on how much room might be BIN / Make Offer. No brainer, PL worth more.

    Coins & Currency both US and World
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    I would take PL wherever could get one - PCGS or NGC.

    Would not give up until both said nay. Once PL would probably price it per Higher CPG / TPG. No brainer, PL worth more.

    What CPG/TPG pricing are you talking about? I don’t think it even exists for most PL coins, other than Morgan Dollars.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2021 1:56PM

    Well no CPG for PL on Trade $. Not to worry....

    If no PG data would expand research to auction data, other seller offerings. Ultimately cost plus a start but would research where other players are to develop parameters for my premium calculation so not give away. I am not set in concrete.

    No doubt PL worth more than non PL. just a matter how badly does a real buyer want it.

    Coins & Currency both US and World

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