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coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

With so many coming to Ebay for auction lately and I haven't seen a SCHalf thread lets see what you have.
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1969 Silver SC50C Transcontinental RR Heraldic Art Medal NGC MS69
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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stunning!

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have those ones that are commonly found in a Wayte Raymond page in the back of one of my Meghrig albums, but I don’t have any photos handy to post.

    Mr_Spud

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I have those ones that are commonly found in a Wayte Raymond page in the back of one of my Meghrig albums, but I don’t have any photos handy to post.

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    Those are neat. I’ll wait up.....run and go get images :D

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2021 7:28PM

    Unfortunately it’ll have to wait until next weekend. I can’t get to my albums before then so you better get some sleep 🌞

    Mr_Spud

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just looked them up on eBay and the ones dated 1935 were actually made in 1947. I also saw a different one from the 1960 centennial that was slabbed as an actual so-called so maybe mine is a legit one too

    Mr_Spud

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2021 8:48PM

    I just found a red version of my 1960 one slabbed as HK-583, only the slab said it was a so called dollar instead of a half dollar.

    Update- I found out mine is HK-582, the silver version. 583 is bronze. But they are so called dollars and not half dollars, but the 1947 ones that say 1935 are indeed so called half dollars, at least that is what the label says on the ones NGC slabbed that I saw on eBay. But there is no reference number on them like the HK numbers for the dollars.

    Mr_Spud

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2021 8:15PM

    I don’t think there any concrete laws laid down in for so-called half dollars yet.
    I’m fairly certain even pcgs have designated some of my latest submissions SC50 and they
    are brass “good for” I’ll look them up and post tomorrow.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2021 8:23PM

    This forum is awesome. It's threads like this that get me to go through all the old boxes I have laying around to look for things I had forgotten about. I have the Trans Continental Railway coin and the Pony Express coin, Changing Horses,.....somewhere. Can't wait to find them....I'm on it!!

    P.S. Bought them both in Utah at the Promontory Point gift shop. I think?

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    This forum is awesome. It's threads like this that get me to go through all the old boxes I have laying around to look for things I had forgotten about. I have the Trans Continental Railway coin and the Pony Express coin, Changing Horses,.....somewhere. Can't wait to find them....I'm on it!!

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    Don’t make me wait to long......I’m an impatient woman! :Do:)

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This one I find annoying because it is slightly larger than a silver dollar instead of a half...

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2021 1:48AM

    Yall have been ebay-stalking me, haven't you? I've been trying to avoid giving these greater publicity, but with the prices I'm seeing the past few days, the cat's out of the bag.

    Gotta get the camera out again tomorrow . . .

    Somebody call for an intervention . . . .

    But for your enjoyment early this morning . . . .

    Z

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,500 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i like the patina on the staples as well :p

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    1959 Alaska Statehood So-Called Half Dollar RAW
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    That is Medallion #1 of the series of 60 . . . . . .

    Z

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun , this is probably one of my Top 10 favorite designs from the So-Called Half Dollar series. I just love the reverse.

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    1961Kansas Statehood SC50¢ - Medallion #7


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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are a couple that I think @Twobitcollector will enjoy, given his love of all things trains . . . . . .

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    1967 Nebraska Statehood - Medallion #25
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    1970 Transcontinental Railroad - Medallion #33

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:
    @coinsarefun , this is probably one of my Top 10 favorite designs from the So-Called Half Dollar series. I just love the reverse.

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    It is beautiful.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:
    Yall have been ebay-stalking me, haven't you? I've been trying to avoid giving these greater publicity, but with the prices I'm seeing the past few days, the cat's out of the bag.

    Gotta get the camera out again tomorrow . . .

    Somebody call for an intervention . . . .

    But for your enjoyment early this morning . . . .

    Z

    Great Rob McNamara piece!

    Here's the die pair I own :)

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2021 1:45AM

    1962 USS Constitution - by Rob McNamara - Full Brockage Pair - 2017 Restrike - Ex. Paul Sandler

    I have a few of the 2017 Heraldic Art restrikes struck by Tony Grat of Intaglio Mint for Paul Sandler.

    I couldn't resist this full brockage error pair. How often do you see the pair together?

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Many So-Called Half Dollars are not toned.

    Here's an exception of mine :)

    (1965) Eli Whitney 1765-1825 - Pioneer of Mass Manufacture - Ex. D.A. Smith

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    Stunning colors! I agree many are not toned actually the majority are not toned. Yours is wonderful

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:

    @Zoins said:
    Many So-Called Half Dollars are not toned.

    Here's an exception of mine :)

    (1965) Eli Whitney 1765-1825 - Pioneer of Mass Manufacture - Ex. D.A. Smith

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    Stunning colors! I agree many are not toned actually the majority are not toned. Yours is wonderful

    Nice of you to say so :+1:

    I love how the reverse looks like there's sunlight coming in through the window into a dark room.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    btw @Zoins i like the Cert number......pretty cool and easy to remember.
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    And, here’s one I bought a month or so back..
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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ZoidMeister said:
    Yall have been ebay-stalking me, haven't you? I've been trying to avoid giving these greater publicity, but with the prices I'm seeing the past few days, the cat's out of the bag.

    Gotta get the camera out again tomorrow . . .

    Somebody call for an intervention . . . .

    But for your enjoyment early this morning . . . .

    Z

    Great Rob McNamara piece!

    Here's the die pair I own :)

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    I know who to go to if I need a "replacement" . . . . . . . LOL

    Z

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Many So-Called Half Dollars are not toned.

    Here's an exception of mine :)

    (1965) Eli Whitney 1765-1825 - Pioneer of Mass Manufacture - by Rob McNamara - Ex. D.A. Smith

    NICE TONING . . . ..

    My Transcontinental Railroad is just starting to develop a tiny bit of reddish yellow toning on the right side of the reverse. It almost looks like the scene was crafted at sunset . . . . .

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 8:20AM

    Here are two of my favorite So-Called Half Dollars:

    1832 Philadelphia Civic Procession Medal - by by Albert Bird and Mr. Folwell - Silver. Plain edge - Original - Musante GW-130, Baker-160 - PCGS MS64 POP 3/1/0 - Ex. Catherine E. Bullowa, E. Pluribus Unum

    Stack's Bowers wrote:

    32.3 mm. 240.8 grains. Medium gray silver accented by pleasing soft blue-green and gold mottling across both sides. Prooflike in the fields, an effect a bit more pronounced on the obverse where the fields are more protected. Excellent quality and eye appeal with light handling but no distracting marks. Sharply struck with bold detail. The reverse is somewhat dramatically double struck in a medal-turn alignment. This is an “original” impression, likely struck close to 1832 and before any evidence of the reverse breaks appeared. The original issued pieces, those struck at the Civic Procession and distributed from the parade float were white metal, while these silver ones were likely struck as presentation pieces for organizers or perhaps those associated with the Gold and Silver Artificers of Philadelphia. These are rare in silver and sometimes found pierced, the latter perhaps worn during the procession and thus struck prior to it. This is a particularly nice one, perhaps the most interesting to study for its dramatic double striking. It is the plate piece in the 1999 Rulau-Fuld revision of Baker. As such, it would be hard to improve upon.

    • Catherine E. Bullowa, September 1984, lot 95.
    • E Pluribus Unum Collection - Sold via Stack's Nov 10, 2020

    1832 Philadelphia Civic Procession Medal - by by Albert Bird and Mr. Folwell - Brass - Restrike - Musante GW-130-R2 Baker-160, var. Brass - PCGS MS64 POP 3/1/0 - Ex. E. Pluribus Unum

    Stack's Bowers wrote:

    32.4 mm. 300.1 grains. Mostly bright golden brass with soft golden brown toning in some of the recesses. Highly lustrous, verging on prooflike, with just a few tiny spots and other trivial signs of handling. Unlisted by Baker in this composition, though included by Musante who called it “Very Scarce.” This is in a very early state from the restrike vintage, with just the faintest hairline crack visible under magnification extending from the dentils to the base of I of ANNIVERSARY. In fact, the crack is faint enough that it was last offered as an “original” in the unbroken die state, but the fine crack is certainly present. Struck in coin-turn orientation on a thick flan, like the bronze example offered in the previous lot.

    • Presidential Coin and Antique, May 1982, lot 276.
    • E Pluribus Unum Collection - Sold via Stack's Nov 10, 2020

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Here are two of my favorite So-Called Half Dollars:

    1832 Philadelphia Civic Procession Medal - by by Albert Bird and Mr. Folwell - Silver. Plain edge - Original - Musante GW-130, Baker-160 - PCGS MS64 POP 3/1/0 - Ex. Catherine E. Bullowa, E. Pluribus Unum

    Stack's Bowers wrote:

    32.3 mm. 240.8 grains. Medium gray silver accented by pleasing soft blue-green and gold mottling across both sides. Prooflike in the fields, an effect a bit more pronounced on the obverse where the fields are more protected. Excellent quality and eye appeal with light handling but no distracting marks. Sharply struck with bold detail. The reverse is somewhat dramatically double struck in a medal-turn alignment. This is an “original” impression, likely struck close to 1832 and before any evidence of the reverse breaks appeared. The original issued pieces, those struck at the Civic Procession and distributed from the parade float were white metal, while these silver ones were likely struck as presentation pieces for organizers or perhaps those associated with the Gold and Silver Artificers of Philadelphia. These are rare in silver and sometimes found pierced, the latter perhaps worn during the procession and thus struck prior to it. This is a particularly nice one, perhaps the most interesting to study for its dramatic double striking. It is the plate piece in the 1999 Rulau-Fuld revision of Baker. As such, it would be hard to improve upon.

    • Catherine E. Bullowa, September 1984, lot 95.
    • E Pluribus Unum Collection - Sold via Stack's Nov 10, 2020

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    Great so-called half’s. The silver example is stunning! I would buy his one based solely on
    the eagle design I I knew nothing about collecting.

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A recent arrival.

    Z


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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have no clue how I missed this one last time but that’s amazing!
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    @DrDarryl said:
    I purchased the Hawaii Statehood SC50C obverse and reverse dies raw several years ago. Then had them encapsulated by NGC.




  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool thread! Amazing pieces <3

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    1961 Kansas Statehood Heraldic Art SCHD
    I found one with similar toning of the classic half dollar commem’s.
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    Just wanted to mention that this one has beautiful colors!

    Thanks for posting it Stef!

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @coinsarefun said:

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    Just wanted to mention that this one has beautiful colors!

    Thanks for posting it Stef!

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    Thanks. I haven’t been able to find any other toned ones. I have managed to get almost the entire set.
    Some graded, most raw. But, haven’t had time, nor money to continue the search.
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    After all these months of illness and building a rental unit in the rear of property that forced
    the sale of a considerable amount of my collection we will be listing our home for sale next week.
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    G-d willing my health keeps me for a few more years and our plans to move to Las Vegas and
    enjoy an early retirement. I consigned more stuff to Heritage and when they they tell me when I’ll let everyone
    know on the bst forum.

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:

    @Zoins said:

    @coinsarefun said:

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    Just wanted to mention that this one has beautiful colors!

    Thanks for posting it Stef!

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    Thanks. I haven’t been able to find any other toned ones. I have managed to get almost the entire set.
    Some graded, most raw. But, haven’t had time, nor money to continue the search.
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    After all these months of illness and building a rental unit in the rear of property that forced
    the sale of a considerable amount of my collection we will be listing our home for sale next week.
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    G-d willing my health keeps me for a few more years and our plans to move to Las Vegas and
    enjoy an early retirement. I consigned more stuff to Heritage and when they they tell me when I’ll let everyone
    know on the bst forum.

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    Best wishes for the future sis. Many prayers are being offered.

    Z

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