Why would PSA mark a slab “Trading Card”.
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Any ideas? Mistake?
I bought this card and began to be concerned it was not authentic. Any ideas? Thx
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Blue flips do not authenticate the card, only the auto. Many of the cards are good, some aren't.
Thanks.
Are the blue flips the “new” ones for all submissions.....or is this just the slab they use now for a submitter who only wants the auto graded?
Trying to figure out why someone would not want to have the card authenticated too - even if not for a grade. Like the Boggs.
The entire process is confusing to me because of all the choices:
You get the idea.
This.
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Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox
Blue flips never authenticated the card, the Boggs was before they changed to just "Trading Card" on all of them because it was misleading previously. Now there are no more blue flips, just red flips with "Trading Card" or that include card and auto authentication (grades available for either or both also).
Thx and glad they made the changes to have this be less confusing. Lol.
Guess I will eventually send in my Blue flips to get Red flips.
Generally cards in blue flips or graded authentic have a flaw keeping the grade down which is why they were graded that way. But there are the occasional great buy in blue flips, subs just pick it because it's the cheaper option
I believe there was a battle over a blue flip labeled "1963 Topps" Pete Rose that ended up being a reprint card that started it all, with the purchaser believing it to be an authentic RC.
Ok thx. So the word “Authentic” the issue? Yeah silly. Once you have PSA/DNA no need to have Authentic on the slab.
long story short back in '14, they were fooling themselves on crossovers by putting pretty much labeling anything the subber titled the card as regardless whether the card was original or not. after all blue flips only guaranteed the auto only.
the change centered around a rash of signed 1963 pete rose cards that hit the market and were crossed over as real 1963 topps cards. kinda. after all they were already labeled in the system and came up as "63 topps" when you entered the cert number into the sub system. plus the auto was already psa auth. remembering this was a long time ago before the card really blew up and that rose autos are anything but rare.
whoever took advantage of the system knowingly or unknowingly just had them redflipped to "authentic". since it was in the system already and subber requested just authentic, i'm not sure if they even went to a grader since technically they weren't asking for a grade.
then when the rc auto craze began, folks, myself included were buying the ones that looked the best for decent money and subbing them for numerical grades. that's when the ball started to unravel and puzzle pieces started getting put together. psa did the right thing, w me at least and compensated me w free grading vouchers and pretty sure they bought whatever was available and popped up on ebay. i'm sure there's still some tucked away.
anyways, that's what current coo at the time, steve single, told me and partly the reason for axing the blue flips & that system all together. so now if you don't pay for the card to be authenticated, regardless of whether it's real or not, it will only be labeled as a trading card.
Thanks Blurry. Helpful history.
So any Blue Flips that say “Authentic Auto” - are probably OK, but you never know. Especially avoid Rose!
The 5 Blue’s I have are cards like 82 T Ripken - card isn’t graded - but not gonna worry about it then being fake. Highly unlikely.
id say any blue flips that say anything resembling a real title such as "1963 topps" that you are getting a fake card. doesnt mean you are, just do your due diligence and dont pay the price tag as if it were a real card.
and b. definitely stay away from any red flipped 1963 roses where the card is only deemed "authentic". if you run across one, point it out.
but really its so muddy that you really have to take each and every card on a case by case basis. if ever there was a time for "buy the card, not the holder" it would be on any auto'd card.
eta: conversely, just because a red flip says "trading card" does not mean it's not a real card, either. it very well could be real. i just bought an autod 81 topps larry bird red flip that was listed as "trading card" for ridiculously cheap. havent got it yet, but looks to be able to grade an 8. i hadnt seen any fake 81 birds yet. im sure they are out there considering the steep ascent the cards taken but was willing to roll the dice on the price.
Red Label..
NJ office doesn't have research and ID at that location those of us who don't want to wait and are just getting an autograph slabbed, if it's not a rookie card or some big one just get Trading Card put on it and get it back much quicker..
Now big rookie & important card gets a trip to cally..