@panexpoguy said:
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In my mind, it is the same scenario as me deciding to go to Burger King for lunch and looking around for any coupons which I then use when, in reality, I was going to Burger King either way. Sure, lots of folks regularly go to places because they have a coupon and Burger King is making a sale, albeit for less profit, that they otherwise would not have made. But on my purchase, they are simply losing profit for no reason.
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They are losing profit on your purchase for a reason. The reason being that they can't effectively separate consumers who will purchase because of the coupon and those that will purchase regardless. Overall, the business believes it is worth it. If you can figure out a way to separate these two customer groups, you will be very rich.
@Broadstruck said:
Well I canceled my eBay store with the managed payments as I want the money in my hands before I ship something. Anyhow in regards to the promote feature they spank you if you don't use it on listings that renew. Let's say you have a 1,000 items running that automatically renew in 30 days. If you don't promote eBay will renew your listings however they stay stale at the bottom. They do not become new listings on the top and do not get sent to buyers awaiting new daily items in their search categories. You are forced to end all 1,000 items on day 29 and manually relist each to get around this penalization.
So....your plan is to no longer sell on Ebay? Apparently everyone that sells on Ebay has to have managed payments not just sellers with Ebay stores.
My plan is to resist for as long as possible. They keep sending me notices but so far I can still list with just accepting PayPal.
Yeah I noticed that too and I'm doing the same.
As although I canceled my store I left a few items up to see how long I too can just ignore them.
I personally feel they will loose a lot of sellers with this new platform and they will revert.
If you look at some of the YouTube videos explaining managed payments they have way more dislikes and only a few likes.
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
@panexpoguy said:
I decided never to buy a coin from a promoting seller, even the coins they don't promote. .
Excluding sources for coins seems silly but hey do what you want.
I buy coins myself, and I could care less how I saw the coin who the seller is.
You asked for feedback on promoted listings and people's experience with them and I gave you the experience of an active buyer of coins on ebay. Just because something doesn't bother you, doesn't mean it doesn't bother others, and as a business owner, you would be better served to consider that than not. I think irritating potential customers into not wanting to do business with you is pretty silly, but hey do what you want. I do care when I am getting spammed, and so do many.
From your response, it seems clear that you already decided before posting that you are going to use promoted listings, and I wish you nothing but success with the decision as the risk/reward is all yours. Out of curiosity, how does ebay calculate the dollar amount of business that you never got because of promoted listings? Thanks
They don't obviously. However, you can calculate your sales increased by the use of promoted listings and in my experience it is worth it.😎
OK, so ebay is able to tell you that your coin sold faster and at a higher net profit to you as a promoted listing than it would have as a non promoted listing? How are they able to determine when and for how much net profit the same coin listed for the same price at the same time would have sold? I am legitimately asking.
In my mind, it is the same scenario as me deciding to go to Burger King for lunch and looking around for any coupons which I then use when, in reality, I was going to Burger King either way. Sure, lots of folks regularly go to places because they have a coupon and Burger King is making a sale, albeit for less profit, that they otherwise would not have made. But on my purchase, they are simply losing profit for no reason.
No obviously you have to try things running a business, and if you are satisfied that your strategy is working for your business then it it likely is because you know your business. But there are negatives to any strategy and a trustworthy source of factual data on the negatives of promoted listings will never come from ebay :-) I am glad that it is working for you as I want sellers to support the hobby. Thanks
It's based on averages of thousands of different items in hundreds of categories. It's hard to do for something like a coin but easy to do for something like a wrist watch.
@Davideo said:
I find the strong negative feelings towards promoted listings somewhat odd. Advertising is ubiquitous. On television, the radio, in magazines, in the mail, in email, road signs. Current estimates are that the average American sees between 6,000 to 10,000 ads per day.
The vast majority of products I buy are advertised. I don't conclude that because Dodge advertises their vehicle they are overpriced and that I shouldn't buy a Dodge. And good luck buying a car from a company that doesn't advertise. Even used cars are advertised online, in classified ads, etc. And it goes down to very simple things as well. I bought red peppers at the grocery store because the flyer I received in the mail advertised them as on sale.
Yes, nearly all advertisements I would prefer not see. But I'm not going to view eBay or eBay sellers negatively for doing what essentially every business in America does: advertise.
I agree. It's kind of odd. Would you not buy Pepsi because they ran an ad during the Super Bowl?
I think the assumption is that you only advertise coins if you are trying to inflate the value. This, of course, has some evidence based on the way some of the TV hawkers and mail order operations price their widgets.
eBay promoted listings is different: I don't have to run a million dollar ad to promote my coin. That blanket advertising raises the cost of business. eBay promoted listings could be as little as a 1% fee. I'm not sure why anyone would consider me a crook if I paid 1% to promote a listing, even if I raised the price 2% in the process.
It is also hard to argue that the converse is true: anyone who doesn't use promoted listings isn't inflating the price.
In the end, why wouldn't you just buy a coin you wanted if the price was agreeable and skip it if it wasn't?
OK, so ebay is able to tell you that your coin sold faster and at a higher net profit to you as a promoted listing than it would have as a non promoted listing? How are they able to determine when and for how much net profit the same coin listed for the same price at the same time would have sold? I am legitimately asking.
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Not sure if they do that in a report or not but I think you are confused as to what a @WQuarterFreddie said:
OK, so ebay is able to tell you that your coin sold faster and at a higher net profit to you as a promoted listing than it would have as a non promoted listing? How are they able to determine when and for how much net profit the same coin listed for the same price at the same time would have sold? I am legitimately asking.
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Not sure if they do that in a report or not but I think you are confused as to what a promoted listing does for a seller and a buyer.
My experience is that paying the extra fee gets me extra views from potential buyers and that results in faster sales and higher priced sales with some items.
I don't use promoted listings all the time and quite frankly I don't want to reveal my selling strategy in a public forum.
I will tell you that if you find promoted listings annoying just change the search from Best Match to another choice and that should solve your problem.
Ok, I’m game. Maybe I never looked it the right place on eBay. How would I change the initial search page results from Best Match to anything else? And how do I remove promoted items that are not new from the first page of my Newly Listed results?
As an aside, employers need to pay money to promote their job listings on Indeed and LinkedIn so that they are readily seen. Not doing so greatly reduces the number of applicants and hiring the right person. Not surprised that eBay has adopted this approach. All upside for them.
Seated Half Society member #38 "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
@Davideo said:
I find the strong negative feelings towards promoted listings somewhat odd. Advertising is ubiquitous. On television, the radio, in magazines, in the mail, in email, road signs. Current estimates are that the average American sees between 6,000 to 10,000 ads per day.
The vast majority of products I buy are advertised. I don't conclude that because Dodge advertises their vehicle they are overpriced and that I shouldn't buy a Dodge. And good luck buying a car from a company that doesn't advertise. Even used cars are advertised online, in classified ads, etc. And it goes down to very simple things as well. I bought red peppers at the grocery store because the flyer I received in the mail advertised them as on sale.
Yes, nearly all advertisements I would prefer not see. But I'm not going to view eBay or eBay sellers negatively for doing what essentially every business in America does: advertise.
I agree. It's kind of odd. Would you not buy Pepsi because they ran an ad during the Super Bowl?
I think the assumption is that you only advertise coins if you are trying to inflate the value. This, of course, has some evidence based on the way some of the TV hawkers and mail order operations price their widgets.
eBay promoted listings is different: I don't have to run a million dollar ad to promote my coin. That blanket advertising raises the cost of business. eBay promoted listings could be as little as a 1% fee. I'm not sure why anyone would consider me a crook if I paid 1% to promote a listing, even if I raised the price 2% in the process.
It is also hard to argue that the converse is true: anyone who doesn't use promoted listings isn't inflating the price.
In the end, why wouldn't you just buy a coin you wanted if the price was agreeable and skip it if it wasn't?
It doesn’t bother me that companies advertise. I actually appreciate clever advertising. I also don’t have an issue with the cost of advertising being built in to my cost, because advertising could inform me of a product or service I might be interested in. And I have never looked at a promoted item on eBay as overpriced or something that isn’t moving otherwise.
But let’s take your Pepsi example. So I sit down to spend 4 hours watching the Super Bowl. Every few minutes there is a break of some sort and an ad comes on. First ad is ‘Buy a Pepsi from Bob’s Pepsi store!’ Ok, well, I am a Coke man so I don’t care for Pepsi much, and Bob’s store is across town, but hey, people gotta advertise so I’m ok and Bob is ok.
Six minutes later there is another break. Commercial pops up...’Buy a Pepsi from Bob’s Pepsi store!’ Not a different ad, or a different flavor, just the same ad. Some more game passes and six minutes later, ad time again and it is Bob’s Pepsi ad again. And again, and again, and again.
How long does it take me to start getting up every break to get your nachos and Coke because I know I am not buying what Bob is selling? How many more iterations before I start to conclude that neither CBS, nor Bob, thinks much of me and my free time?
Four hours later and I have had to endure Bob’s Pepsi commercial 40 times. How do I feel about Bob and his Pepsi? Well, weeks later, when I happen to be in Bob’s neighborhood and am looking to slake my thirst, what do I do? Well, step one is to drive right past Bob and his Pepsi.
@panexpoguy said:
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In my mind, it is the same scenario as me deciding to go to Burger King for lunch and looking around for any coupons which I then use when, in reality, I was going to Burger King either way. Sure, lots of folks regularly go to places because they have a coupon and Burger King is making a sale, albeit for less profit, that they otherwise would not have made. But on my purchase, they are simply losing profit for no reason.
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They are losing profit on your purchase for a reason. The reason being that they can't effectively separate consumers who will purchase because of the coupon and those that will purchase regardless. Overall, the business believes it is worth it. If you can figure out a way to separate these two customer groups, you will be very rich.
I agree with you and understand why they can't, but I don't think that same limitation applies to ebay. Wouldn't you assume that ebay has the data on all of my purchases and l sales through ebay over the last 25 or so years? Every search, every view, every purchase, price, key word search, return, every discount offered and whether it was accepted or rejected etc.?
They have that data on every account, no? So why isn't there an algorithm that decreases my overall search results, but increases the percentage of results that I do get back that match my patterns, with the most likely matches at the top? That would be practically impossible for Burger King, but ebay? Thanks
OK, so ebay is able to tell you that your coin sold faster and at a higher net profit to you as a promoted listing than it would have as a non promoted listing? How are they able to determine when and for how much net profit the same coin listed for the same price at the same time would have sold? I am legitimately asking.
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Not sure if they do that in a report or not but I think you are confused as to what a @WQuarterFreddie said:
OK, so ebay is able to tell you that your coin sold faster and at a higher net profit to you as a promoted listing than it would have as a non promoted listing? How are they able to determine when and for how much net profit the same coin listed for the same price at the same time would have sold? I am legitimately asking.
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Not sure if they do that in a report or not but I think you are confused as to what a promoted listing does for a seller and a buyer.
My experience is that paying the extra fee gets me extra views from potential buyers and that results in faster sales and higher priced sales with some items.
I don't use promoted listings all the time and quite frankly I don't want to reveal my selling strategy in a public forum.
I will tell you that if you find promoted listings annoying just change the search from Best Match to another choice and that should solve your problem.
Ok, I’m game. Maybe I never looked it the right place on eBay. How would I change the initial search page results from Best Match to anything else? And how do I remove promoted items that are not new from the first page of my Newly Listed results?
@panexpoguy said:
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In my mind, it is the same scenario as me deciding to go to Burger King for lunch and looking around for any coupons which I then use when, in reality, I was going to Burger King either way. Sure, lots of folks regularly go to places because they have a coupon and Burger King is making a sale, albeit for less profit, that they otherwise would not have made. But on my purchase, they are simply losing profit for no reason.
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They are losing profit on your purchase for a reason. The reason being that they can't effectively separate consumers who will purchase because of the coupon and those that will purchase regardless. Overall, the business believes it is worth it. If you can figure out a way to separate these two customer groups, you will be very rich.
I agree with you and understand why they can't, but I don't think that same limitation applies to ebay. Wouldn't you assume that ebay has the data on all of my purchases and l sales through ebay over the last 25 or so years? Every search, every view, every purchase, price, key word search, return, every discount offered and whether it was accepted or rejected etc.?
They have that data on every account, no? So why isn't there an algorithm that decreases my overall search results, but increases the percentage of results that I do get back that match my patterns, with the most likely matches at the top? That would be practically impossible for Burger King, but ebay? Thanks
Actually it appears that eBay does do that. I did a quick test and searched for "Barber quarter" when logged into my eBay account (which purchases Barber quarters) and an identical search in a different browser logged into my wife's account (who does not purchase or search for coins). When organized by "Best Match", the listed items and the order were different for the two different accounts.
@Broadstruck said:
Well I canceled my eBay store with the managed payments as I want the money in my hands before I ship something. Anyhow in regards to the promote feature they spank you if you don't use it on listings that renew. Let's say you have a 1,000 items running that automatically renew in 30 days. If you don't promote eBay will renew your listings however they stay stale at the bottom. They do not become new listings on the top and do not get sent to buyers awaiting new daily items in their search categories. You are forced to end all 1,000 items on day 29 and manually relist each to get around this penalization.
So....your plan is to no longer sell on Ebay? Apparently everyone that sells on Ebay has to have managed payments not just sellers with Ebay stores.
My plan is to resist for as long as possible. They keep sending me notices but so far I can still list with just accepting PayPal.
Yeah I noticed that too and I'm doing the same.
As although I canceled my store I left a few items up to see how long I too can just ignore them.
I personally feel they will loose a lot of sellers with this new platform and they will revert.
If you look at some of the YouTube videos explaining managed payments they have way more dislikes and only a few likes.
That's because people hate change. If you remember when they introduced PayPal, there was a constant stream of complaints, threats to leave eBay, predictions of the end of eBay... Now, it is probably some of those same people complaining that they want to keep PayPal.
They will not be reverting. There is no reason to. People can continue to use PayPal to pay, if they wish. Instead of PayPal linked to your bank account, it is managed payments. There is no major change here.
Are there implementation issues? Probably. They will work them out.
There is a major change and the 1 thing that bothers me about managed payments. I don't like ebay being able to hold my money hostage over me. This is their next step attempting to be the next Amazon. Go read about some of the horror stories from Amazon sellers because they were holding their funds. They even caused some sellers to go out of business with this practice.
@Broadstruck said:
Well I canceled my eBay store with the managed payments as I want the money in my hands before I ship something. Anyhow in regards to the promote feature they spank you if you don't use it on listings that renew. Let's say you have a 1,000 items running that automatically renew in 30 days. If you don't promote eBay will renew your listings however they stay stale at the bottom. They do not become new listings on the top and do not get sent to buyers awaiting new daily items in their search categories. You are forced to end all 1,000 items on day 29 and manually relist each to get around this penalization.
So....your plan is to no longer sell on Ebay? Apparently everyone that sells on Ebay has to have managed payments not just sellers with Ebay stores.
My plan is to resist for as long as possible. They keep sending me notices but so far I can still list with just accepting PayPal.
Yeah I noticed that too and I'm doing the same.
As although I canceled my store I left a few items up to see how long I too can just ignore them.
I personally feel they will loose a lot of sellers with this new platform and they will revert.
If you look at some of the YouTube videos explaining managed payments they have way more dislikes and only a few likes.
That's because people hate change. If you remember when they introduced PayPal, there was a constant stream of complaints, threats to leave eBay, predictions of the end of eBay... Now, it is probably some of those same people complaining that they want to keep PayPal.
They will not be reverting. There is no reason to. People can continue to use PayPal to pay, if they wish. Instead of PayPal linked to your bank account, it is managed payments. There is no major change here.
Are there implementation issues? Probably. They will work them out.
@amwldcoin said:
There is a major change and the 1 thing that bothers me about managed payments. I don't like ebay being able to hold my money hostage over me. This is their next step attempting to be the next Amazon. Go read about some of the horror stories from Amazon sellers because they were holding their funds. They even caused some sellers to go out of business with this practice.
@Broadstruck said:
Well I canceled my eBay store with the managed payments as I want the money in my hands before I ship something. Anyhow in regards to the promote feature they spank you if you don't use it on listings that renew. Let's say you have a 1,000 items running that automatically renew in 30 days. If you don't promote eBay will renew your listings however they stay stale at the bottom. They do not become new listings on the top and do not get sent to buyers awaiting new daily items in their search categories. You are forced to end all 1,000 items on day 29 and manually relist each to get around this penalization.
So....your plan is to no longer sell on Ebay? Apparently everyone that sells on Ebay has to have managed payments not just sellers with Ebay stores.
My plan is to resist for as long as possible. They keep sending me notices but so far I can still list with just accepting PayPal.
Yeah I noticed that too and I'm doing the same.
As although I canceled my store I left a few items up to see how long I too can just ignore them.
I personally feel they will loose a lot of sellers with this new platform and they will revert.
If you look at some of the YouTube videos explaining managed payments they have way more dislikes and only a few likes.
That's because people hate change. If you remember when they introduced PayPal, there was a constant stream of complaints, threats to leave eBay, predictions of the end of eBay... Now, it is probably some of those same people complaining that they want to keep PayPal.
They will not be reverting. There is no reason to. People can continue to use PayPal to pay, if they wish. Instead of PayPal linked to your bank account, it is managed payments. There is no major change here.
Are there implementation issues? Probably. They will work them out.
Amazon is notorious for this. It remains to be seen whether eBay will do something similar. Frankly, early on in PayPal it took longer to get your money than it does now.
Also, from a buyer standpoint, they might prefer that eBay is acting as a buffer to prevent fraud.
.....and a mid 4 figure coin from ebay the week before Feel free to PM me your ebay seller ID if you find my perspective amusing and we can amicably agree to avoid doing business. Thanks!
@panexpoguy said:
.....and a mid 4 figure coin from ebay the week before Feel free to PM me your ebay seller ID if you find my perspective amusing and we can amicably agree to avoid doing business. Thanks!
I find it a little perplexing, but I completely respect your right to conduct your business in whatever manner you see fit. I meant it more as a good-natured ribbing not as a criticism.
@panexpoguy said:
.....and a mid 4 figure coin from ebay the week before Feel free to PM me your ebay seller ID if you find my perspective amusing and we can amicably agree to avoid doing business. Thanks!
I find it a little perplexing, but I completely respect your right to conduct your business in whatever manner you see fit. I meant it more as a good-natured ribbing not as a criticism.
Then I take it as such, and I have no hard feelings. I didn’t start a conversation asking sellers to not use promoted listings, I provided feedback on a discussion that asked for experiences around them and I gave one. Had I said that these listings were great and I purchased often from them, then my feedback would have been warmly received as it is clear OP wanted confirmation as opposed to feedback.
The reality is that the vast majority of customers who dislike a business practice simply stop being a customer, or refrain from becoming a customer to begin with, as opposed to expressing their views. I went into my yahoo email account today because I only use it when I don’t want a recipient to have my primary email. There were 315 unread emails since I was last in, all yahoo sanctioned spam...which is why they were unread and why yahoo is not my primary account. Thanks!
Watch out for the promoted listings gig !! I tried it about a year ago. ran the promo for about 30 days and sold nothing. Item sold 16 days after promo ended and I still had to pay the promo cost. I think it follows the item for 30 days after you end the promo.
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They are losing profit on your purchase for a reason. The reason being that they can't effectively separate consumers who will purchase because of the coupon and those that will purchase regardless. Overall, the business believes it is worth it. If you can figure out a way to separate these two customer groups, you will be very rich.
Yeah I noticed that too and I'm doing the same.
As although I canceled my store I left a few items up to see how long I too can just ignore them.
I personally feel they will loose a lot of sellers with this new platform and they will revert.
If you look at some of the YouTube videos explaining managed payments they have way more dislikes and only a few likes.
It's based on averages of thousands of different items in hundreds of categories. It's hard to do for something like a coin but easy to do for something like a wrist watch.
I agree. It's kind of odd. Would you not buy Pepsi because they ran an ad during the Super Bowl?
I think the assumption is that you only advertise coins if you are trying to inflate the value. This, of course, has some evidence based on the way some of the TV hawkers and mail order operations price their widgets.
eBay promoted listings is different: I don't have to run a million dollar ad to promote my coin. That blanket advertising raises the cost of business. eBay promoted listings could be as little as a 1% fee. I'm not sure why anyone would consider me a crook if I paid 1% to promote a listing, even if I raised the price 2% in the process.
It is also hard to argue that the converse is true: anyone who doesn't use promoted listings isn't inflating the price.
In the end, why wouldn't you just buy a coin you wanted if the price was agreeable and skip it if it wasn't?
Ok, I’m game. Maybe I never looked it the right place on eBay. How would I change the initial search page results from Best Match to anything else? And how do I remove promoted items that are not new from the first page of my Newly Listed results?
As an aside, employers need to pay money to promote their job listings on Indeed and LinkedIn so that they are readily seen. Not doing so greatly reduces the number of applicants and hiring the right person. Not surprised that eBay has adopted this approach. All upside for them.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
It doesn’t bother me that companies advertise. I actually appreciate clever advertising. I also don’t have an issue with the cost of advertising being built in to my cost, because advertising could inform me of a product or service I might be interested in. And I have never looked at a promoted item on eBay as overpriced or something that isn’t moving otherwise.
But let’s take your Pepsi example. So I sit down to spend 4 hours watching the Super Bowl. Every few minutes there is a break of some sort and an ad comes on. First ad is ‘Buy a Pepsi from Bob’s Pepsi store!’ Ok, well, I am a Coke man so I don’t care for Pepsi much, and Bob’s store is across town, but hey, people gotta advertise so I’m ok and Bob is ok.
Six minutes later there is another break. Commercial pops up...’Buy a Pepsi from Bob’s Pepsi store!’ Not a different ad, or a different flavor, just the same ad. Some more game passes and six minutes later, ad time again and it is Bob’s Pepsi ad again. And again, and again, and again.
How long does it take me to start getting up every break to get your nachos and Coke because I know I am not buying what Bob is selling? How many more iterations before I start to conclude that neither CBS, nor Bob, thinks much of me and my free time?
Four hours later and I have had to endure Bob’s Pepsi commercial 40 times. How do I feel about Bob and his Pepsi? Well, weeks later, when I happen to be in Bob’s neighborhood and am looking to slake my thirst, what do I do? Well, step one is to drive right past Bob and his Pepsi.
I agree with you and understand why they can't, but I don't think that same limitation applies to ebay. Wouldn't you assume that ebay has the data on all of my purchases and l sales through ebay over the last 25 or so years? Every search, every view, every purchase, price, key word search, return, every discount offered and whether it was accepted or rejected etc.?
They have that data on every account, no? So why isn't there an algorithm that decreases my overall search results, but increases the percentage of results that I do get back that match my patterns, with the most likely matches at the top? That would be practically impossible for Burger King, but ebay? Thanks
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Actually it appears that eBay does do that. I did a quick test and searched for "Barber quarter" when logged into my eBay account (which purchases Barber quarters) and an identical search in a different browser logged into my wife's account (who does not purchase or search for coins). When organized by "Best Match", the listed items and the order were different for the two different accounts.
That's because people hate change. If you remember when they introduced PayPal, there was a constant stream of complaints, threats to leave eBay, predictions of the end of eBay... Now, it is probably some of those same people complaining that they want to keep PayPal.
They will not be reverting. There is no reason to. People can continue to use PayPal to pay, if they wish. Instead of PayPal linked to your bank account, it is managed payments. There is no major change here.
Are there implementation issues? Probably. They will work them out.
There is a major change and the 1 thing that bothers me about managed payments. I don't like ebay being able to hold my money hostage over me. This is their next step attempting to be the next Amazon. Go read about some of the horror stories from Amazon sellers because they were holding their funds. They even caused some sellers to go out of business with this practice.
Amazon is notorious for this. It remains to be seen whether eBay will do something similar. Frankly, early on in PayPal it took longer to get your money than it does now.
Also, from a buyer standpoint, they might prefer that eBay is acting as a buffer to prevent fraud.
Time will tell...
I just tried the promo assistance this weekend and it paid off...SOLD...after quite a few offers from a couple of potential buyers.
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But how many customers did you permanently lose?
Who knows? When one door closes behind you and another one opens in the front...you may be incarcerated.
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I believe promoting listings helps but difficult gauge the impact. I need develop research method for this.
Any advertising helps the item could pop up and the guy thinks that’s one he needs.
Maybe just one...but one who bought a 5 figure coin from Legend last week
.....and a mid 4 figure coin from ebay the week before
Feel free to PM me your ebay seller ID if you find my perspective amusing and we can amicably agree to avoid doing business. Thanks!
I find it a little perplexing, but I completely respect your right to conduct your business in whatever manner you see fit. I meant it more as a good-natured ribbing not as a criticism.
Then I take it as such, and I have no hard feelings. I didn’t start a conversation asking sellers to not use promoted listings, I provided feedback on a discussion that asked for experiences around them and I gave one. Had I said that these listings were great and I purchased often from them, then my feedback would have been warmly received as it is clear OP wanted confirmation as opposed to feedback.
The reality is that the vast majority of customers who dislike a business practice simply stop being a customer, or refrain from becoming a customer to begin with, as opposed to expressing their views. I went into my yahoo email account today because I only use it when I don’t want a recipient to have my primary email. There were 315 unread emails since I was last in, all yahoo sanctioned spam...which is why they were unread and why yahoo is not my primary account. Thanks!
Watch out for the promoted listings gig !! I tried it about a year ago. ran the promo for about 30 days and sold nothing. Item sold 16 days after promo ended and I still had to pay the promo cost. I think it follows the item for 30 days after you end the promo.
now that it is brought up, promoted items annoy me, too.