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Help. Will this grade ? Or is it trimmed or miscut ?

Considering buying an otherwise beautiful 67 Mays. But the back left side has me worried. The seller claims the card is not altered and original. Do you think this card will grade without an OC or MC notation ? Thanks for your help.



I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman

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  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My money is on it being trimmed

  • 19591959 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭

    The top left and right edges are not dead centered, but the bottom borders look centered. Yet the entire right border is centered, thus trimmed on right side. I agree with Maddux69.

  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys. I was leaning that way myself. He’s got it listed at a reasonable price and sent me a. Offer even lower. That was a red flag. If it wasn’t altered I wouldn’t think he would have any trouble getting a very good price on it. Mays along with many others is really hot right now.

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
    Collecting:
    post world war II HOF rookie
    76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
    Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
    successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ask him to take pics next to a ruler!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    run.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Front doesn't look trimmed to me.

    Back will certainly get a qualifier IF it grades.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • GreenSneakersGreenSneakers Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭

    If it wasn't trimmed, it would already be in a slab.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GreenSneakers said:
    If it wasn't trimmed, it would already be in a slab.

    That's certainly a possibility. The OP was asking if it would get a qualifier if it graded.

    There are LOTS of cards out there worth a lot of money that aren't graded. I just ran across a guy with a 1981 football set with a decent Montana rookie (good corners, a little too O/C for a 9) not graded.

    Front on the Mays card looks to have a slight "tilt", but otherwise doesn't look trimmed to me. I compared it to a 1967 card in my PC and the side borders might be OK.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Willie-Mays-Giants-HOF-1967-Topps-200-PSA-6-EX-MT-x168/264032463181?hash=item3d798fa94d:g:5NAAAOSweMxgByhS

    Looks to me like this card has back centering issues.

    Might be just fine!

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • sjjs28sjjs28 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2021 7:08AM

    Im a follower of this card...
    EVERY 67 mays has a narrow left reverse border. Some worse than others...
    I would argue against trimmed - Cant argue against oc due to the reverse.

    You might be looking at the best non-qualifed "7" out there....

    I would be all over that card!!
    Let me know if you pass....

    Steve Saldutti
    sjjs28@comcast.net
    Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
    Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭

    I say not trimmed but may get the not graded miscut.

  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys. Appreciate your input.

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
    Collecting:
    post world war II HOF rookie
    76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
    Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
    successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too will say not trimmed - just another bad '67 factory cut. I have a few slabbed that are less rectangular than that. Pay for it like it's a raw 4 or 5, and hope for a 6/7...

    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • I don't think it is trimmed side to side but the bottom border may be trimmed as it looks like it has a bow from left to right.

    as for miscut backs, I am not so sure. psa used to have back standards. sgc didn't really. I have seen way more cards with miscut backs not get qualifiers in more recent years. I sent in a 76 brett with a miscut back that is a gorgeous card after someone pointed out many 76's in psa slabs with miscut backs( 76' are notorious for these). I have had the card for a long time and never considered subbing it assuming it would get a qualifier

  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 700 ✭✭✭✭

    It's such a shame as it is almost certainly trimmed and re-colored. If not, that card would look amazing in a PSA holder.

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