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PCGS GRADERS MUST BE SMOKEING?

garygary Posts: 185
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SENT THESE COINS TO PCGS TO SEE IF THE GRADERS WERE CONSISTENT IN THERE GRADEING....
RESULTS 7/3/02
(Cracked out 3 coins and submitted them raw)

COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 90012036 1961 50C PR65CA
2 90012037 1959 50C PR67 .......Confirmed CA
3 90012038 1983-S 50C PR69DC
4 90012039 1979-S SBA$ Type 1 PR69DC
5 90012040 1999-S 1C PR69DC
6 90012041 1999-S 5C PR69DC
7 90012042 2002-S 50C PR69DC
8 90012043 2002-S SAC $1 PR68DC ....Cracked out PCGS PF69
8 90012044 2002-S SAC $1 PR68DC
9 90012045 2002-S MS 25C Mississippi PR69DC ......Cracked out PCGS PF68
10 90012046 2002-S LA 25C Louisiana PR69DC
11 90012047 2002-S OH 25C Ohio PR68DC
12 90012048 2002-S TN 25C Tennessee PR69DC
13 90012049 2002-S IN 25C Indiana PR68DC.......Cracked out PCGS PF69

The Small Forum Members are being held up big time by incompent PCGS graders
The Victorian Collection
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Comments

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I tried to divine precisely your point when I read this in the US Coin forum. I've now read it here, and am still scratching my head.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • garygary Posts: 185
    (Cracked out 3 coins and submitted them raw)
    The Victorian Collection
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  • WWBillmanWWBillman Posts: 900
    AND.............
    Bill

    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
  • garygary Posts: 185
    Billman,

    AND?

    I spent $30 extra to see for myself and thought I would share with you and sorry you don't care about what happens with small submissions like this.
    The Victorian Collection
    EMAIL:
    relictrader@suddenlink.net
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Gary - I always find it interesting and helpful , to see what luck other collectors have with PCGS Grading. It makes me realize that the bear is not the only creature seeming to get $crewed. Regards Bear
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    I'm with Russ, you cracked three coins, got 2 downgrades and 1 upgrade. And you disagree with the grading on 1 coin out of the other 10. So you're getting screwed how?

    Do you know how easy it is to put a hairline on a proof coin while in transit -- cracking, handling, mailing, handling?
    Keith ™

  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Keith - How can you be so grumpy the day before such a grand holiday as the 4th. Be niceimage The same goes for the other grump Russ also. image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Bear,

    Looking at Gary's invoice, he disagrees with 4 of 13 coins, one in his favor image

    Now looking at Gary's title, who's grumpy image
    Keith ™

  • garygary Posts: 185
    Keith,
    You could be right,and wraping and bubble packing,could fail when taped securely and cause hairline cracks.

    Makes one wish we could hand deliver coins to insure safe delivery.
    The Victorian Collection
    EMAIL:
    relictrader@suddenlink.net
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Russ, try a little selsun blue for that scratching.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Irish Mike - You just made a bear laugh. Thank youimage.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • WWBillmanWWBillman Posts: 900
    LMAO
    Bill

    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
  • MS67PLUSMS67PLUS Posts: 686
    Gary

    There is a very small difference between a 68 and a 69 check out the grade points on this scale.


    5 to 12.99 = MS or Proof-60
    13 to 13.99 = MS or Proof-61
    14 to 17.49 = MS or Proof-62
    17.5 to 18.99 = MS or Proof-63
    19 to 20.49 = MS or Proof-64
    20.5 to 21.99 = MS or Proof-65
    22 to 22.99 = MS or Proof-66
    23 to 23.99 = MS or Proof-67
    24 to 24.49 = MS or Proof-68
    24.5 to 24.99 = MS or Proof-69
    25 = MS or Proof-70


    For more check out this link


    COIN GRADING
    FORMER # 1 NOW # 3 ON ALL TIME FINEST CLAD QUARTER COLLECTION

    PCGS THE ONLY WAY TO GO

    Ed
  • TCicconeTCiccone Posts: 112
    Gary

    First off I do want you to know I am not disagreeing with you.

    I have my own frustrations with the whole slabing industry. I cannot tell you how many coins I have bought sight unseen and the coin received has been 1 to 2 grades overgraded and worse than something similar I have personally sent and received a lower grade!

    But...Until a large enough crossection can be confirmed and the same processes being tracked at the "other" grading experts, it might just be the subjective nature of the beast.

    Just think of the position they are in, they can create or eliminate value in minutes. I have often thought it would be neat to have access to the records which indicate for whom the coin was originally graded! Might really answer a few questions!

    TC
    TC
  • garygary Posts: 185
    Ed,
    Thanks for pointing that out, for the 68 was a lock to make 69,but the 69's that down graded 68 were border line and came from Power Dealer,but were the weakest 2 of 10 coins(my opinion!).

    Confirm's that graders have bad days too! It would be nice to know witch day!

    BJ,seems to have a moon thery that I need to read up on*^%$#@
    The Victorian Collection
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    relictrader@suddenlink.net
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Mike,

    I'm a Head and Shoulders man. Although I have found that these days, for some strange reason, I need less shampoo then I used to.image

    Russ, NCNE
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  • dddangerousdandddangerousdan Posts: 566
    Russ I know what you mean. A bottle used to last a few weeks, now it lasts 5-6 months. image

    DAN
    United States Air Force Retired And Would Do It Again.

    My first tassa slap 3/3/04

    My shiny cents

    imageThe half I am getting rid of and me, forever and always Taken in about 1959
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    i really really like you guys image
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    lol...nevermind
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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