Canseco tearing it up
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Go 80s!
Still one of my favorites from the kid years.
One of those untouchables. Unforgettable head shot.
He finished out last year at about $400:
($640 on the BO)
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Iconic card to say the least..........condition sensitive too
I'm 33. Just doesn't do it for me. I think it was a 'had to be there' kind of deal.
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I was “there” and it doesn’t do it for me either.
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Of course this happens two months after I sell one for $330 lol
i was. and loved every bit of it. good news is that my childhood card is probably right at the price point that "santa" paid for it way back in '89
I gave all my Canseco’s to a board member years ago. Hit a Donruss and Fleer 10. Hope he still owns them!
Iconic 80s card. How much longer will this massive appreciation continue? Feds are about to pump more money with another covid relief so not anytime soon.
Wasn't that card about $200 raw in the late 1980's.
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I’ve had 2 of these at PSA for a good 6 months now...fingers crossed they come back as 10s...they were both self pulled from rack packs and are in amazing shape!
Guy was huge in the late 80's. Huge as in popular.
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In 1987 mailed this Fleer card to the A's for an auto...... I'm going to assume that someone else with nice penmanship signed it. Haven't seen any similar.....
That 86 Donruss looks good. Really good actually. The 86 Fleer update - not a chance he signed it.
Edit: Just realized that the 86 Donruss was already slabbed. Hehe.
It was an iconic card of the 1980s and I am kind of glad to see it rise was once again. I bought a few of his cards for fun many years ago when prices were very flat. To me, they were just a momento of what was popular in the 1980s and just wanted a few for my own private collection. I guess it turned into an investment now!
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I would wager that the Canseco Fleer card is not authentic. It is not uncommon to go through the trouble of mailing a card in only to have someone, not the player, at the club house just sign it to get it over with. It is really an insult for someone to receive a card or other item with a forged signature. The card or item would now be considered to be defaced. That fleer card is only worth about $10 is PSA 8 and $20 in PSA 9, but still it must be aggravating based on the principle of someone forging a signature on it.
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Yeah I bought mine 6 years ago I think about 70 bucks.
As a novelty thing from the 80s. Prompts the fun memories!
PSA 10 pop 648. More buyers than sellers right now
yeah being a kid in 1988 canseco was a god. that card and the 89 topps Jefferies bring back some good memories. I have both tacked to my office wall lol
You wonder if this will affect 1986 Donruss Factory Set prices. Remember every sealed brick has an Aaron header card.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
The market continues to blow my mind the last few days. This card, the 93 sp jeter, many others I am sure. Doubling in a course of 2 days...
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its what I call helicopter money. haven’t seen it sense 16’ ... qe has reached the card market.
All the jeters going nutz
'16 was the buying group. This is even crazier
that was a multi millionaire group, what we are seeing now is hedge fun bu billionaires lol
only a select few cards went crazy in 16’ everything high grade seems to be going 5-10x now
Dealers wouldn't sell their cards for anything less than 2x.
Sitting around waiting for the buying group to come by.
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What is the end game here. Prices just keep going up and up?
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imo yes, I think we are still in the infancy of the card market. lots of rich dudes out there, cards are a sold fun investment.
Great question. Hindsight, '18 and '19 were the respite years after the big '16 run-up.
It's gonna plateau eventually.
Since 2013, the 1st run up I experienced,
I've been telling myself the market will retrace.
I guess it does a little bit here & there
David (and others) can probably do this more justice. But I completely misinterpreted the COVID impact to discretionary collectibles.
The amount of liquidity about to come through via the Blue wave and the incredible wealth appreciation that most have seen in home prices, 401k, etc is unprecedented.
No end in sight. I don’t see a a meaningful correction happening any time soon.
I have friends who are banking gains in the capital markets and looking for other investment venues.
Nostalgia is powerful. And well capitalized new players are flooding the market.
Just my $.02
John
Love the long overdue value of these cards starting to happen. Like him or hate him Canseco was a defining player of the 1980s. Bash Brothers was iconic and defined the decade.
Price run up is happening because lots of investors see traditional investment vehicles are slowly capping out. Bonds are just now exceeding 1% return and DJIA and NASDAQ at record highs making it more difficult to earn significant returns.
Collectibles are still a largely untapped market. As iconic cards like the Jordan, LeBron, etc. skyrocket other players are going to follow suit.
This ride is not close to being over.
Not just Jeter but his high grade 1993 SP are absolutely on fire.
and here lies the truth of it all. and thats all it really bols down to.
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I remember when I bought a Canseco in a 9 for around 25 in like 2011 or 2012. I didn't think it was worth it to buy the 10 for 50. HA!
From 4th to 7th grade Canseco was my guy. Everytime the A's came to Milwaukee I made my parents take me to at least one game of the series. The one time I sat in the mezzanine seats at County Stadium it was because the A's were in town. I collected Canseco like crazy back then. Still have my entire Canseco collection in those 4 card/page books that were popular in the 80s.
Fast forward to last summer, Canseco cards shot through the roof. When they came down and I decided to buy a 10 at 300. Glad I decided to pull the trigger when I did because I wouldn't at 800. I'm currently wearing #33 in our indoor wiffleball bar league. Only one dinger in five games. Weak.
My '86 Donruss Canseco Rated Rookie PSA 10 is the last card from the '80s decade that I would sell. I've sold miniscule count Bonds PSA 10s, PSA 10 Clemens RCs, a ton of stuff. I still have a ton of stuff left in my '80s collection. But the Canseco RR is BY FAR the card I lusted after the most when I was a kid and couldn't afford one.
I mean, I plotted and schemed to try to come up with a way that I could acquire one. Could I trade my whole collection for one? (No.) I was relegated to rolling the dice on $3.50 packs and a thousand prayers. It never happened.
He'll never make the HOF, and I'm a firm believer that the levee will break and all the steroid era players will get in. But if you were a hobby boom kid, this card was legend for your whole prime years of collecting. To this day, I love the card and I'm not even much of a Canseco fan to begin with. There's just too much childhood nostalgia locked up in that card for me not to HAVE to own one.
Arthur
@ReggieCleveland i agree. 86 Donruss Canseco is one of THE cards of the 80’s.
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Every kid in the 1980s who collected had Jose at the center of their collection. Love him or hate him, he was the first 40/40 guy and could absolutely crush the baseball...
well i took the plunge tonight and i bid on a canseco psa 9 donruss rookie plus a complete set. since i do not have a canseco graded donruss rookie in my collection i thought now would be a good time to pick one up.
A case can be made the 1980 Rickey Henderson was the most iconic card thru the 1980’s and if it wasn’t the Henderson then I think it was the Canseco rated rookie and there’s no doubt at its peak the Canseco was more popular than the Henderson at its peak. Also outside of the Ripken and Gwynn rookies nothing even come close thru the decade.
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What about the 85 Mcgwire?
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Henderson in a 9 for $2k feels like a steal nowadays.
Don't forget about donruss Mattingly, the card that started the rookie craze some people say.
I have been doing this card thing since I was 7. 40 years. I keep waiting for a massive correction. This new world we are living never ceases to amaze me.
1989 UD Griffey is my call for card of the 80s.
Again, not “every kid.” I didn’t like him in 86, didn’t like him in the 90s and don’t like him today. You’d be more accurate by saying “many kids”
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Don Mattingly would like to see you in the school yard at 3PM.
Throughout the 80s the cards I remember with the most hype were
People wanted the other cards the Sandberg, Gwynn rcs etc. these cards had super buzz. Jefferies did not pan out but everyone wanted that card. Really one of my first introductions to prospecting.
The '85 McGwire got some love in '87 when he broke the rookie home run record but the card didn't really become iconic until his chase of history in 1998.
The '89 Upper Deck Griffey was certainly a mamoth card but it didn't have the time necessary in the decade to make a period list. If we're talking about which cards currently, then it's obviously near the top of the list. But in 1989, Griffey wasn't much more of a hobby presence than any of the other 1989 rookies.
I think if we're talking about peak demand during the 1980s decade we have to include something like the 1987 Fleer Will Clark. Will Clark was one of the most in-demand hobby names for a few years and his run in 1989 (especially his ALCS where he seemingly went toe-to-toe with Mark Grace) was the stuff of legends.
Arthur
Love it or hate it card grading at least lets you quantify to some degree of accuracy the supply portion of the supply/demand equation. That will keep these cards desirable in high condition for sure and you’ll get trickle down to lower conditions when folks are priced out.
There is also likely a lot of the new money spilling over from the Robinhood bros trying to follow the insane modern basketball craze into vintage or desirable junk wax. If they start getting their asses handed to them with modern basketball collapse there could be a correction from what we are seeing now. James Wiseman might be the key to keeping the entire hobby on fire (ha, ha). The super high end blue chips wouldn’t be affected much but cards like the Canseco RR might not continue to appreciate much or even contract some.
Wasn’t a popular card in the 80’s the explosion came in the 90s
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90’s and today even maybe a great choice but not in the 80’s just as a function of math.
The Billy Ripken FF card way outpaced the Griffey for buzz during the 1980’s if I were to pick a 1 year card over the 10 yr Henderson.
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An excellent case can be made for Mattingly and his 84 Donruss, but I’d actually choose the 1984 Fleer update Roger Clemens a spot ahead of Mattingly.
For the player comparison: Clemens won 2 Cy Young’s and an MVP with a World Series appearance by 1987 while Mattingly won 1 batting title and an MVP with no Series appearances.
For the card comparison the 1984 Fleer Update is the one and only clear Rookie card for Clemens while Mattingly has a very popular Topps card that was initially more popular when the 2 came out in 84.
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If we want to talk buzz in the moment that's a different answer than all time.
In the moment? 1984 fleer update Dwight Gooden was the hottest card.
Mattingly was up there too but Doc's was supernova hot.
I started in 87. At this point in time, Mattingly everything was white hot, as was Boggs, Eric Davis, Canseco and, of course, McGwire. Mac’s 85T Card was in insane demand.
By 88 the Canseco cards, especially the 86D, was THE card to have. In 89, Will Clark’s 87F Card was on fire.
I’m sure that there were regional and local factors that would give us all different experiences. Plus many of us were kids so how effective were we all at measuring the marketplace?
In any event, this is how I remember it.
John