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Has anyone seen the counterfeit 1980-S Indian Head Cent (photos from ANACS)?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 29, 2020 8:48AM in U.S. Coin Forum

CoinWorld mentions the following 1980-S Indian Head cent counterfeit but doesn't include a photo with the date. The 1980-S date in the article seems to be a typo. Anyone have a full photo of this coin?

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/monday-morning-brief-for-dec-28-2020-the-battle-continues

The battle against counterfeiters who make such fakes as the illustrated 1980-S Indian Head cent continues. The Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force reports on progress made during 2020.

Original images courtesy of ANACS.

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  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2020 7:56AM

    Not sure anyone would need a magnified diagnostic to know a 1980 IHC is counterfeit ;)

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! CoinWorld makes a typo. 1908 S Indian Head Cent, I believe is what they are speaking of. At least, that is my opinion.
    Jim


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    Not sure anyone would need a magnified diagnostic to know a 1980 IHC is counterfeit

    1980-S is a typo. It's a 1908-s.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2020 7:59AM

    Makes sense. I don't follow IHCs but I just looked it up and 1908-S is the 3rd lowest issue.

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    Not sure anyone would need a magnified diagnostic to know a 1980 IHC is counterfeit

    1980-S is a typo. It's a 1908-s.

    It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. Edited to add a winky face.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just to clarify- ANACS provided the images of the coin. It is not an ANACS-graded coin as the thread title implies, nor is it in a counterfeit ANACS holder.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2020 9:36AM

    @cmerlo1 said:
    Just to clarify- ANACS provided the images of the coin. It is not an ANACS-graded coin as the thread title implies, nor is it in a counterfeit ANACS holder.

    Thanks for that. I've updated the topic to indicate the photos are from ANACS.

    That being said, the article is actually very ambiguous and, while it mentions the photos are from ANACS, it does not mention if the coin was certified as a genuine coin or a counterfeit coin, so one really can't tell if it was slabbed or not from the article.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2020 8:54AM

    William T. Gibbs wrote:

    China is a major home of counterfeiters, thanks to lax laws there that permit forgers to make and sell counterfeit coins of all kinds (except for China’s own coinage).

    Of course, China does allow counterfeiting of Chinese coinage as long as its before 1949.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @cmerlo1 said:
    Just to clarify- ANACS provided the images of the coin. It is not an ANACS-graded coin as the thread title implies, nor is it in a counterfeit ANACS holder.

    Thanks for that. I've updated the topic to indicate the photos are from ANACS.

    That being said, the article is actually very ambiguous and, while it mentions the photos are from ANACS, it does not mention if the coin was certified as a genuine coin or a counterfeit coin, so one really can't if it was slabbed or not from the article.

    Thank you for making the change, and I agree the article is ambiguous. I'm the Texas rep for ANACS. I should have stated in my reply that I did reach out to my boss, Paul DeFelice (@anacspaul here on the boards) prior to posting to get the story on that coin. It was determined by us to be counterfeit, and was not certified or encapsulated.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.

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