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Fraudulent pattern peace dollar listing on eBay - please report!

IkesTIkesT Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

The seller is using Stack's Bowers photos of an extremely rare 1922 pattern peace dollar (Judd-2020) to trick people into bidding on a common business strike 1922 peace dollar. The photos of the seller's actual coin (which they include in the listing, along with the copied photos of the pattern) are poor, but you can still see that neither the toning nor the obverse/reverse designs match the pattern specimen.

Someone pulled the same scam a year or two ago on eBay with the same grungy-looking business strike 1922 dollar (presumably the same seller with another account) and was kicked off. At that time, they tried to represent themselves as being affiliated with Stack's Bowers. They didn't do that this time, but it seems they still haven't quite learned their lesson.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-peace-dollar-Modified-Satin-Finish-VERY-RARE/184571997063?hash=item2af9592b87:g:g9wAAOSwZ-9foQSm

The seller's coin:



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The real Judd-2020:

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/1-1N8PO/1922-peace-silver-dollar-modified-high-relief-production-trial-judd-2020-proof-67-pcgs-cac-satin-finish


Comments

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel anyone who buys that as a proof was going to be taken some way some how by someone anyway. You can’t fix stupid

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2020 1:19PM

    @Crypto said:
    I feel anyone who buys that as a proof was going to be taken some way some how by someone anyway. You can’t fix stupid

    In my view, it's as much about getting rid of the seller as it is about protecting would-be buyers. Last time around, he sold the same coin twice before he got kicked off.

    This time, he's already sold the same coin three times, and trying for a fourth. Fortunately, no one is (yet) paying $1,000+ for the coin like they did last time.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never mind that the example he’s selling has a mintmark.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,758 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Never mind that the example he’s selling has a mintmark.

    So you're saying it's the even RARER branch mint pattern? :o

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Satin finish :D:D:D

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    Satin finish :D:D:D

    :s:s:s

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Never mind that the example he’s selling has a mintmark.

    I saw that too, Mark.

    You beat me to it.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon

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