Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
To receive top dollar...the seller needs to have BBCE authenticate the box. Then for a high-priced item...sell it through a major auction house such as Memory Lane, Heritage Auctions, REA, or Mile High. I would even include PWCC in this list of sellers.
@dontippet said:
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
Based on what else they have for sale they may not know a whole lot about cards. Probably just did enough research to see what a single rack pack sold for.
@dontippet said:
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
Steve has already seen this box and the racks are legit.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@dontippet said:
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
Agreed, it seems to happen a lot. Sometimes with really good, legit stuff. More often, it's junk. The lack of effort to properly sell not only hurts their bottom line, but sometimes prevents the right person from seeing the listing as well. For that kind of money, I am writing a book and adding in any appropriate keyword, if not selling outside of ebay at an auction house.
I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
@dontippet said:
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
Steve has already seen this box and the racks are legit.
@dontippet said:
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
Steve has already seen this box and the racks are legit.
Why isn’t it wrapped?
He didn't want to pay to have it wrapped but was shopping it around.
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That the dream of every collector. Be asked to help clean out an old mom and pop convenient store that closed in 1987. In the store room under the old candy are boxes of unopen. Take your pick. 1952 Topps to 1996 Fleer. Wake up in a cold sweat with only a few packs of 1990 Topps.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@Darin said:
Another one. I would LOVE to have the rack with Stargell on top.
One of my favorites...Willie and another HOFer on top..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@ElvisP said:
Just think if it sell eBay will make $10k.
No, final value fees on ebay are capped at $750.
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Those rack packs are awesome! I would love to own just one. I love the 73 card design. Some crazy photos were taken that we will never see again on cards (Cars in background, players making errors, etc.).
@ElvisP said:
Just think if it sell eBay will make $10k.
No, final value fees on ebay are capped at $750.
Interesting. If you could sell a large collection for anywhere close to what it might be worth, that is the way to go.
In the early days of ebay, when they had infrequent free list days and anything went (no cost for high starting bid prices), I listed my entire collection (about 25 years worth) with the thought that although I doubted anyone would buy it at the price I was asking, if someone did I'd be out of the game and a lot richer. I had planned to list a basic auction immediately with no detail and just a huge price, then add pictures and descriptions to it as time permitted, not really expecting anyone to actually buy it (but it was free to try). I never got much past the listing part as some asshole immediately started messaging me, cracking about how my collection was not worth a fraction of what I was asking. He claimed he was THE premier buyer of card collections and my asking price was well beyond any other collections listed before and his "me" page (remember those?) had a cheesy photo of him holding a bunch of fanned out cash. The funny part was, he had absolutely no clue what was in my collection because I had not gotten to that part yet. He was just bashing it based on the asking price (which was quite high to protect myself). Me being me, I had to tell him off of course, but my motivation to add details and images and try to make this listing seem as legit as possible was fading at that point. it would have been interesting to see if I got any legit offers once I had all the details, but that point never happened.
Would have been cool to sell out and only pay $750!
I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
Market value is probably closer to 70K for the box.
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@ElvisP said:
You would think for 85K they would throw in free shipping. 😂😂😂
If I sold something on eBay for anything close to $85K I think I would have it registered, insured and signed delivery with possible DNA and blood sample provided just to make sure it arrives safely. I would cover this cost as part of the 85K and list it as free shipping. I am not sure what his $11.55 covers but that is very risky on his end.
I actually like the 1973 set..the horizontal action shots are especially cool, imo. The design of the set has nothing to do with its potential value. 86K was an aggressive ask price for 24 73 racks even in this market.
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Should be certified by BCCE. Plain and simple. No excuse for it not to be. If you know enough to put an 80 thousand dollar price tag on it, then you know enough that it needs to be authenticated. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Come on...
Well if the "story" the seller told is true, then of course he's got virtually no money tied up in it.
The fact that he wants to sell, says he needs the money for whatever reason or perhaps is an older gentleman just parting with something valuable to make an inheritance easier on his children.
In any event, i would think that this item would be available for sale again real soon. Unless someone made him a private offer by now and he took it.
@Mickey71 said:
Should be certified by BCCE. Plain and simple. No excuse for it not to be. If you know enough to put an 80 thousand dollar price tag on it, then you know enough that it needs to be authenticated. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Come on...
Steve did review the racks and confirmed the box was authentic. He was offered a strong price (imo) but wanted to let the auction run its course on ebay. The box will sell but whether he gets what he's looking for is another story. One thing we have learned with unopened over the past few years is that patience rewards those who wait when it comes to selling.
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The auction wasn't ended early. It just ended normally without a bid at 85K.
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Exactly. He passed on a private offer of 72K. I doubt he nets that much now with auction fees and BP.
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I love it
Not that I'm pessimistic about this auction, but for such great value why wouldn't he get some experts involved? I would even personally fly it to Steve's to get it authenticated. His description sounds like he's selling a $50 item. I've had it forever, I don't know much about it, but here it is.
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To receive top dollar...the seller needs to have BBCE authenticate the box. Then for a high-priced item...sell it through a major auction house such as Memory Lane, Heritage Auctions, REA, or Mile High. I would even include PWCC in this list of sellers.
Based on what else they have for sale they may not know a whole lot about cards. Probably just did enough research to see what a single rack pack sold for.
Steve has already seen this box and the racks are legit.
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I really dislike 1973 Topps design. Very depressing IMO. There’s some color trying to sneak out but it’s squashed.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
Agreed, it seems to happen a lot. Sometimes with really good, legit stuff. More often, it's junk. The lack of effort to properly sell not only hurts their bottom line, but sometimes prevents the right person from seeing the listing as well. For that kind of money, I am writing a book and adding in any appropriate keyword, if not selling outside of ebay at an auction house.
Well, in this case, given the opening bid, there is no fear of the item selling for a lot less than it is worth.
Amazing box. How can you not authenticate a 1973 BB rack box? I would of personally hand delivered the box to Steve at BBCE for authentication.
Why isn’t it wrapped?
I prefer my racks unwrapped 😖
He didn't want to pay to have it wrapped but was shopping it around.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
That the dream of every collector. Be asked to help clean out an old mom and pop convenient store that closed in 1987. In the store room under the old candy are boxes of unopen. Take your pick. 1952 Topps to 1996 Fleer. Wake up in a cold sweat with only a few packs of 1990 Topps.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think the 1973 design is one of the best of the 70's. All the focus goes towards the actually photography which was brilliant from 1971 to 1976.
One more...
Another one. I would LOVE to have the rack with Stargell on top.
One of my favorites...Willie and another HOFer on top..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Grote- Amazing rack pack!
Just think if it sell eBay will make $10k.
No, final value fees on ebay are capped at $750.
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Thanks, Darin!
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Those rack packs are awesome! I would love to own just one. I love the 73 card design. Some crazy photos were taken that we will never see again on cards (Cars in background, players making errors, etc.).
Condition:Brand New
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Starting bid:US $84,999.00
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Interesting. If you could sell a large collection for anywhere close to what it might be worth, that is the way to go.
In the early days of ebay, when they had infrequent free list days and anything went (no cost for high starting bid prices), I listed my entire collection (about 25 years worth) with the thought that although I doubted anyone would buy it at the price I was asking, if someone did I'd be out of the game and a lot richer. I had planned to list a basic auction immediately with no detail and just a huge price, then add pictures and descriptions to it as time permitted, not really expecting anyone to actually buy it (but it was free to try). I never got much past the listing part as some asshole immediately started messaging me, cracking about how my collection was not worth a fraction of what I was asking. He claimed he was THE premier buyer of card collections and my asking price was well beyond any other collections listed before and his "me" page (remember those?) had a cheesy photo of him holding a bunch of fanned out cash. The funny part was, he had absolutely no clue what was in my collection because I had not gotten to that part yet. He was just bashing it based on the asking price (which was quite high to protect myself). Me being me, I had to tell him off of course, but my motivation to add details and images and try to make this listing seem as legit as possible was fading at that point. it would have been interesting to see if I got any legit offers once I had all the details, but that point never happened.
Would have been cool to sell out and only pay $750!
You would think for 85K they would throw in free shipping. 😂😂😂
No bites:
Condition:Brand New
Ended:Nov 01, 2020 , 8:22PM
Starting bid:US $84,999.00[ 0 bids ]
Shipping:$11.55 Expedited Shipping
Item location:Glenshaw, Pennsylvania, United States
Market value is probably closer to 70K for the box.
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If I sold something on eBay for anything close to $85K I think I would have it registered, insured and signed delivery with possible DNA and blood sample provided just to make sure it arrives safely. I would cover this cost as part of the 85K and list it as free shipping. I am not sure what his $11.55 covers but that is very risky on his end.
Clearly the market agrees with my earlier assessment.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
The fact that no one feels the box is worth $85K doesn’t indicate that folks don’t like it 😁
I would say its a factor....non conclusive.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
I actually like the 1973 set..the horizontal action shots are especially cool, imo. The design of the set has nothing to do with its potential value. 86K was an aggressive ask price for 24 73 racks even in this market.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I am a little surprised it didn't sell. If it's not worth 85K now it will be in the future.
For that price I fly to wherever you are and physically hand you the box and have you sign for it with a picture of the transaction!
Should be certified by BCCE. Plain and simple. No excuse for it not to be. If you know enough to put an 80 thousand dollar price tag on it, then you know enough that it needs to be authenticated. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Come on...
Well if the "story" the seller told is true, then of course he's got virtually no money tied up in it.
The fact that he wants to sell, says he needs the money for whatever reason or perhaps is an older gentleman just parting with something valuable to make an inheritance easier on his children.
In any event, i would think that this item would be available for sale again real soon. Unless someone made him a private offer by now and he took it.
Steve did review the racks and confirmed the box was authentic. He was offered a strong price (imo) but wanted to let the auction run its course on ebay. The box will sell but whether he gets what he's looking for is another story. One thing we have learned with unopened over the past few years is that patience rewards those who wait when it comes to selling.
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Auction was ended.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Any reason why ?
usually w top tier items, you must overpay to secure them.
it will get to $85k sooner then later regardless of what the overall consensus is on the '73 aesthetics.
The auction wasn't ended early. It just ended normally without a bid at 85K.
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eBay community has a discerning eye when it comes to quality of card designs.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
about the same as comc has to shipping them.
Nathaniel did topps reject a card design you had planned for 1973?
I just figured you sneaked it out the back door.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Box has been consigned to Heritage Auctions.
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20% juice, yikes!
Exactly. He passed on a private offer of 72K. I doubt he nets that much now with auction fees and BP.
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Yeah, it would have to approach six figures.