Getting color coins into PCGS Holders

badger

Was looking through my proof sets and have a few that have toned in the cello. Some have colors that resemble AT more than NT. Does submitting the coin in the unopened cello improve its chances of getting a slab and a grade? Here is a typical example. The Jefferson is neon blue and have many in slabs like that so little concern with those. The pink/red is more in question.

ChrisH821

I have no idea, but being in cellophane doesn't mean it isn't AT. Or "non market acceptable"

cameonut2011

I see no upside to submitting those to be honest.

lkeigwin

I could be wrong but I recall hearing that the coins are removed from the cellophane wrap before graders see them.

Is that correct?

If so, there is no advantage to submitting them in the wrap. Personally speaking, I think that's unfortunate.
Lance.

airplanenut

Coins in those sets can be AT'd in the cello, so the packaging isn't really proof of anything except that the coin is still in the cello. Since graders see the coins raw, however you submit the coin, there's a non-grading middleman who will sanitize the coin, so to speak, removing it from your packaging (if it's anything but a flip) and putting it in a flip. When it gets to the grader, it's just another raw coin.

That said, whether or not they would straight grade, those coins do not look like they have strong/attractive enough color to warrant submission to be graded. If you were to sell, even if they grade well, I can't imagine you'd get your grading fees back in the sale price.

davewesen

those are common proof cellophane caused colors. unless a nice variety or personal significance, I also wonder why submit?

badger

Thanks for all the comments. I was inactive for a while. Previously, some collected proofs with any color (speaking of the Silver Proof set years of 1950-1964). Agree that those colors in the cello are not that attractive. Have been putting a few toner proofs up for auction and see the market has changed significantly. Pretty rainbow toners that were very low grade barely caught a bid. Guessing my rack of low grade, neon Jeffs are not that popular now. But had a few top pop toners that crushed the auction history and price guides.

Would say that collectors are more discerning now. And the novelty of any color has worn off.

EDIT: Have an unbelievably toned MS Jeff at PCGS now. I guess my chances of a grade are directly related to 'unbelievable' lol. It's for my fun collection of Jeff toners, so not killing myself if it no-grades. Still would be nice. Will post a Trueview regardless in a few weeks.