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jefferson nickel 2005, why are so many coins with die chips and cracks ??

mok13mok13 Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
edited September 15, 2020 10:21AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hi there,

I was wondering how come there are so many die chips and cracks on these coins ?
Is it always like that with a first (one) year design ?

have 4 or 5 like this !

and several chips



Henri, From the French Riviera with love

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cracks & chips happen when the mint tries to squeeze a few extra coins from the dies rather than change them out.

    All denominations over all years will show cracks & chips, it is quite common.

  • mok13mok13 Posts: 105 ✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Cracks & chips happen when the mint tries to squeeze a few extra coins from the dies rather than change them out.

    All denominations over all years will show cracks & chips, it is quite common.

    Well I know how they happen etc but I am asking the proportions. Here it is more than 10% with either chip or crack. It seems a lot to me

    Henri, From the French Riviera with love

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not the same coin but here is another year with tons of cracks.
    There are too many variables to establish a percentage.

    http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1921-P_D2_Die_Crack_Break_Guide

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a better way to answer your question would be.....

    Yes, sometimes design elements make for weak spots on the die and therefore cracks can be more common on certain areas of the die.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65-70 tons of pressure, times a few hundred thousand,
    tends to deteriorate the dies in various ways, including
    die crack and die chips.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certain designs are prone to die chipping or cracking. The Morgan dollar was one that never got better.

    That said, the Mint orders die steel in batches from private steel makers. Occasionally a batch is received that is harder or softer than desired, The too hard ones tend to chip and/or crack. Lincoln cents 1956-on are a good example.

    I am not familiar with the 2005 nickels having this problem, but I offer this as a possible explanation.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Early 60's nickels had many die chips in LIBERTY and on the date. Many were labeled "Bar Nickels".

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