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1798 Draped Bust Dollar - Comments and Opinions

CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

Does the coin pictured appear to have original surfaces, or has it been cleaned?

Any other observations or information regarding this coin?

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  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 126 ✭✭✭

    My impression is that it is an original problem free coin that I would be happy to have in my collection, but perhaps some people with more experience should also weigh in.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2020 5:34AM

    Deleted duplicate post.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell if it's been cleaned from your pics. Tilt and rotate your coin under a halogen or incandescent lamp to check for hairline scratches which would indicate that it has been cleaned..

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks problem free. Nice piece.

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    It looks like there might be rim bumps on the obverse from 5:00-6:30?

    The coin is the variety BB-105, a rather common variety. Some of the dies for the Bust Dollars have die cuds that could explain what looks like rim bumps. I checked the database on HA.com for this variety, and NONE of them showed any traces of die cuds. On that basis, I agree, those are rim bumps that worn down with circulation.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @MFeld said:
    It looks like there might be rim bumps on the obverse from 5:00-6:30?

    The coin is the variety BB-105, a rather common variety. Some of the dies for the Bust Dollars have die cuds that could explain what looks like rim bumps. I checked the database on HA.com for this variety, and NONE of them showed any traces of die cuds. On that basis, I agree, those are rim bumps that worn down with circulation.

    Do these rim bumps preclude this coin from straight grading?

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't tell if its been cleaned or not ... but I like it!

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @cardinal said:

    @MFeld said:
    It looks like there might be rim bumps on the obverse from 5:00-6:30?

    The coin is the variety BB-105, a rather common variety. Some of the dies for the Bust Dollars have die cuds that could explain what looks like rim bumps. I checked the database on HA.com for this variety, and NONE of them showed any traces of die cuds. On that basis, I agree, those are rim bumps that worn down with circulation.

    Do these rim bumps preclude this coin from straight grading?

    They should even if they don't. They are damage, even if very old.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin has definitely been around the block a couple of times, but for a budget conscious collector it could be the right piece. I agree the rim damage would likely prevent a straight grade... tough to tell if it has been cleaned. The dark spots on the reverse are a little distracting, but for an 18th C type piece... I'd consider it if it was priced accordingly.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @MFeld said:
    It looks like there might be rim bumps on the obverse from 5:00-6:30?

    The coin is the variety BB-105, a rather common variety. Some of the dies for the Bust Dollars have die cuds that could explain what looks like rim bumps. I checked the database on HA.com for this variety, and NONE of them showed any traces of die cuds. On that basis, I agree, those are rim bumps that worn down with circulation.

    Thank you, Martin.

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    It looks like there might be rim bumps on the obverse from 5:00-6:30?

    I just examined the coin. The bumps appear to be on the obverse only. From what I can see, no rim ding is visible. Kinda looks like a die break or something.

    Also, thank you for identifying the variety (BB-105).

    I appreciate everybody's input and comments.


  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Bust dollar moved through the economy of our New Nation. Cheers.

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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good at that grade level, mostly originalish looking.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just looking at the static images provided, it appears to be a candidate for a coin that has never been cleaned. I like it.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Every US coin with a date that begins with "17" is going to have considerable collector demand even if imperfect and in a low circulated grade.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The rim bumps are forgivable and the overall appeal is refreshing and honest. Neat coin!

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,183 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably been cleaned in about 1850!

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