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Ebay cancelled my listings!

I had a couple Franklins listed for sale, one of which was certified by one of the three acceptable grading services, the other by a lower level grading service. They were separate listings. I got an automated message saying both had been cancelled due to violation of their 'Replica' policy. I'm confident both are genuine and neither are expensive coins. Has anyone had this happen? Any thoughts on what may have caused this?

I'm pretty annoyed but don't know if I want to invest the time and hassle in getting the decision reversed.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see them. Post some photos.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd also like to see what you were selling. You can always try the BST. It's free so you have nothing to lose.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they were real, graded and in appropriate holders with appropriate images, you were targeted by somebody who systematically reported your listings until they reached the threshold of reports as to where they were automatically removed.

    Humans do not review these nor is there any way to appeal them.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Photos would be helpful both in helping to determine what the issues were, and also as a learning post.....

    ----- kj
  • CoinshowmanCoinshowman Posts: 148 ✭✭✭




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  • CoinshowmanCoinshowman Posts: 148 ✭✭✭

    Above are a couple of quick pics with my phone. If anyone sees anything suspicious, I can try to take a couple better ones. I'm not interested in selling fakes, so looking for opinion - for or against the coins.

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  • Landon6Landon6 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭

    i have an uncirculated Franklin

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2020 6:00AM

    @Coinshowman said:



    The second one is a PCI holder, they are not approved. If you posted that one you would have to hide the grade.

    The first was likely guilty by association or something.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Landon6Landon6 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭

    i love proofs

  • Landon6Landon6 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭

    i have a uncirculated ben franklin by anacs its 1955

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    If they were real, graded and in appropriate holders with appropriate images, you were targeted by somebody who systematically reported your listings until they reached the threshold of reports as to where they were automatically removed.
    Humans do not review these nor is there any way to appeal them
    .

    this is the reason why I have never been a big fan of the "eBay Police" who populate this site and are very eager to contact eBay to have something removed. I understand they are quite often correct in what the report, but it's a bad tactic that can lead to errors.

    who knows, Coinshowman may have been targeted by a member here for some reason.

    Agreed. I appreciate the people who can spot the counterfeits but I’ve also seen people jump on legitimate coins based on simple misunderstandings (like not realizing it was just an older PCGS holder or due to a typo on the cert verification page that didn’t have anything to do with the authenticity of the coin).

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The comment made about the PCI coin is correct. You can sell them on ebay... but cannot mention the the PCI name and cannot mention a numerical grade. About all you can do is list it as a BU -Uncirculated coin, and let potential buyers judge by the photos. (I think you can have photos of the slab--- just cannot mention name and grade). Other wise it will likely get pulled.

    I do not know why the NGC listing was pulled, unless mistakenly thought to be another PCI coin.

    ----- kj
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Websites have strange rules and stranger rulers. Enjoy your terms of service.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Landon6 said:
    i have an uncirculated Franklin

    Nice. These are proofs. Do you know the difference?

  • Landon6Landon6 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Landon6 said:
    i have an uncirculated Franklin

    Nice. These are proofs. Do you know the difference?

    yes proofs have a mirror like surface and are not a grade
    unc means no trace of wear and have luster

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neither of those coins look cameo. Listing the PCI slab without blotting out the grade got you booted.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What else have you been selling? perhaps your entire account was flagged over a coin previously sold?

    bob :)

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You be bad

  • CoinshowmanCoinshowman Posts: 148 ✭✭✭

    I've just been cleaning out some widgets - common proof and mint sets mostly. A few SAEs. Bulky stuff that takes up room and isn't really my current collecting interest.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont remember who said it but I also think that if your listing for the PCI coin you showed or wrote the grade that would be a violation and the NGC coin was pulled as a precaution even tho there is nothing wrong with it.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had one of my listings canceled where I had a coin with an FS variety number in the description line and they
    claimed this was a disallowed grade since the coin was not slabbed by one of the anointed grading services, In other words they confused MS-65
    with FS-014.62 which is a variety number from the Cherrypickers Guide To Rare Die Varieties by Fivaz
    and Stanton. They have software that analizes the text of the auctions/buy-it-now listings and determines
    if a violation has been made. Its a computer program making the decision and in most cases not someone
    actually looking at your listing. To get around this you can display the holder in your listing even showing the
    grade and all other information in the photos but change the grade MS-65 to Gem Uncirculated.
    It works for me all the time. Use the following adjectival grades and you will get what you want.

    ms60 to ms62 should be just called Uncirculated.
    ms63 should be referred to as select uncirculated.
    ms64 refers to “near gem uncirculated.”
    ms65 refers to “Gem Uncirculated”
    ms66 is “gem uncirculated plus”
    ms67 is superbe gem uncirculated.
    ms68 to ms70 ??

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Neither of those coins look cameo. Listing the PCI slab without blotting out the grade got you booted.

    Can't tell about the PCI due to pics but the NGC coin looks cameo to me. You don't see cameo on it?

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome. Were not happy until your not happy. Have a nice day 🙂

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    The comment made about the PCI coin is correct. You can sell them on ebay... but cannot mention the the PCI name and cannot mention a numerical grade. About all you can do is list it as a BU -Uncirculated coin, and let potential buyers judge by the photos. (I think you can have photos of the slab--- just cannot mention name and grade). Other wise it will likely get pulled.

    I do not know why the NGC listing was pulled, unless mistakenly thought to be another PCI coin.

    Not only can you not mention it, you also can't show the grade in a picture. Without seeing the listings there's too much to guess since the system for removal is automated. For the PCI coin, was it listed as being certified and did the grade get shown in any way? I'm wondering (as others have mentioned) if the PCI listing was legitimately problematic, and the NGC coin got taken with it, perhaps mistaken as another PCI coin.

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