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PCGS Graded Genuine Cleaned Quarter

I accidentally bid on a 1939 quarter PCGS graded genuine cleaned. I tried to find a value using Coinfacts, but they do not list genuine cleaned values. Is it considered PR1 value or does it have a higher value?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's got some sort of value, but in this instance it is truly a case-by-case basis. Was it a proof or business strike and might you have images?

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  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭


    I bidding on a lot of quarters at Great Collections, and my blood sugar crashed. lol. I was organizing my bids later and did not notice until then.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess value is somewhere between melt and $10?

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:
    I have one you might be interested in? Just got it a couple of days ago. Lol :D

    lol PCGS needs to add a genuine/cleaned value to Coinfacts. I hope someone will outbid me by Sunday when the auction closes. There were 14 bids until mine. The owner was probably one of the bidders.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShaunBC5 said:
    I would guess value is somewhere between melt and $10?

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    nah. the crack-out artist on the bay get a hold of this and sell it raw at auction and get at least 12-14. :wink:

    @Modwriter
    it doesn't look too bad from that image.

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  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @ShaunBC5 said:
    I would guess value is somewhere between melt and $10?

    .
    nah. the crack-out artist on the bay get a hold of this and sell it raw at auction and get at least 12-14. :wink:

    @Modwriter
    it doesn't look too bad from that image.

    I hope that ebay crack out artist outbids me! lol

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a bad looking coin!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I have one you might be interested in? Just got it a couple of days ago. Lol :D

    lol PCGS needs to add a genuine/cleaned value to Coinfacts. I hope someone will outbid me by Sunday when the auction closes. There were 14 bids until mine. The owner was probably one of the bidders.

    What did you bid on it?

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @TommyType said:
    I think there's a good reason PCGS, (and everyone else), doesn't have a price guide for "genuine", cleaned, holed, corroded, whatever coins.

    The category covers a GREAT span of possibilities, from "piece of crap that should be melted", to "Oh, that's so close to being a solid gradable coin". Putting one $$ number on that wide range is just not possible.

    It will sell this Sunday at GC and it will be posted on Coinfacts in the 1939 Quarter section.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:

    @Modwriter said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I have one you might be interested in? Just got it a couple of days ago. Lol :D

    lol PCGS needs to add a genuine/cleaned value to Coinfacts. I hope someone will outbid me by Sunday when the auction closes. There were 14 bids until mine. The owner was probably one of the bidders.

    What did you bid on it?

    $20

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:

    @mannie gray said:

    @Modwriter said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I have one you might be interested in? Just got it a couple of days ago. Lol :D

    lol PCGS needs to add a genuine/cleaned value to Coinfacts. I hope someone will outbid me by Sunday when the auction closes. There were 14 bids until mine. The owner was probably one of the bidders.

    What did you bid on it?

    $20

    You may well end up owning it.
    If that is not what you want, contact GC and tell them you made a mistake in bidding.
    They will help you out.
    You may have to wait until Monday though.
    Does the auction end this coming Sunday night?

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:

    @Modwriter said:

    @mannie gray said:

    @Modwriter said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I have one you might be interested in? Just got it a couple of days ago. Lol :D

    lol PCGS needs to add a genuine/cleaned value to Coinfacts. I hope someone will outbid me by Sunday when the auction closes. There were 14 bids until mine. The owner was probably one of the bidders.

    What did you bid on it?

    $20

    You may well end up owning it.
    If that is not what you want, contact GC and tell them you made a mistake in bidding.
    They will help you out.
    You may have to wait until Monday though.
    Does the auction end this coming Sunday night?

    Yes the auction ends Sunday night. There were 14 bids before mine and I only bid up $1.00 and it has stayed at $20.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    I was outbid at $21 this morning. I wonder if what it sells for would be record setting for a genuine/cleaned coin?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:
    I was outbid at $21 this morning. I wonder if what it sells for would be record setting for a genuine/cleaned coin?

    Consider yourself lucky that you dodged the bullet.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2020 7:34AM

    It is a problem coin. There really is no set formula on these in my view.

    For sell off bourse My goal get somewhere between cost and Ms60. This is the operation mode a dealer in problem coins used.

    However somebody bid it up lol so your off the hook. Congrats your not stuck with it.

    MS60 on it is $24 (CPG). So whoever bought that way overpaid. I do think they could get at least melt for it. They bought it to crack out for album or sell raw / cost plus? As far as record dunno but that guy end user.

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  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is that the winning bidder is thinking of putting it in a Dansco. From the pic shown here in the thread it looks nice and I don't see obvious signs of cleaning.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pcgs does give some values on problem coins. I bought this one for reference on the mintmark.

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:
    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

    I don't think you grasp how it is PCGS grades coins...

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    Every collector has their own opinion and style. Have you been inside PCGS to see their operation? I can only go with what I have read, Im up for a lesson in grading if you can offer any insight.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:
    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

    Those who know how to examine coins properly and are even fairly proficient at grading, don’t need or use a microscope to detect cleaning. And an uncleaned uncirculated 1939 quarter isn’t a particularly valuable coin.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    What abcde12345 was likely alluding to is where you likely engaged in hyperbole and stated that PCGS must have used a microscope to check for (or find) the cleaning on the coin in question. In truth, the graders at PCGS and NGC don't rely on microscopes to grade and most all grading is done by eye or with the aid of a low power loupe.

    Thank TomB. I did read somewhere that a well known grader was looking at a possible counterfeit cent and had to hand it off to off to a lady coworker with a microscope. She did confirm it was a counterfeit. The article is out there somewhere on the internet. I really try hard not to engage in hyperbole.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Modwriter said:
    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

    Those who know how to examine coins properly and are even fairly proficient at grading, don’t need or use a microscope to detect cleaning. And an uncleaned uncirculated 1939 quarter isn’t a particularly valuable coin.

    Wouldn't a MS68 1939 quarter be valuable? Coinfacts has valued one at $4,750. May not be valuable to you, but to me it is.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Modwriter said:
    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

    Those who know how to examine coins properly and are even fairly proficient at grading, don’t need or use a microscope to detect cleaning. And an uncleaned uncirculated 1939 quarter isn’t a particularly valuable coin.

    Wouldn't a MS68 1939 quarter be valuable? Coinfacts has valued one at $4,750. May not be valuable to you, but to me it is.

    Yes, an MS68 would be valuable. But if that coin hadn’t been cleaned, there’s no assurance it would grade anywhere near that high and the odds would be very much against such a grade.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Modwriter said:
    Yes, It is a beautiful coin. I do not buy toned coins. That is why I looked at it, then hit bid without looking at the grade. PCGS probably used a microscope to check for cleaning. It would be a high value quarter if they just used a 10x loupe to grade it.

    Those who know how to examine coins properly and are even fairly proficient at grading, don’t need or use a microscope to detect cleaning. And an uncleaned uncirculated 1939 quarter isn’t a particularly valuable coin.

    Wouldn't a MS68 1939 quarter be valuable? Coinfacts has valued one at $4,750. May not be valuable to you, but to me it is.

    An MS69 would be worth even more. But we could play that game with every coin. Take any coin, and then make the grade higher or the date or mint mark better, and it would be worth more. A coin is only what it is. And since most coins of a certain type that see a huge spike at a high grade aren't that high grade, chances are a damaged coin also wouldn't be that high grade if the damage went away.

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