If you are referring to the Newcomb-7 (Proof only) die variety,
there are 4 shown on PCGS CoinFacts (2 BN, 1 RB, 1 RD): https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1834-1c-newcomb-7-rd/397586
and add one more for the King of Siam example [if it was an N-7, but it's not, see @Walkerguy21D's posts] .
Your coin appears to have the same date position, but I'm sure there are other die markers
[see below - position of star 6 relative to coronet].
@yosclimber said:
If you are referring to the Newcomb-7 (Proof only) die variety,
there are 4 shown on PCGS CoinFacts (2 BN, 1 RB, 1 RD): https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1834-1c-newcomb-7-rd/397586
and add one more for the King of Siam example.
Your coin appears to have the same date position, but I'm sure there are other die markers.
Agreed thank you for your inputs on my question. Appreciated
Interesting - the coin shown in the 'Proof set' is NOT an N-7.
The N-7 has a unique obverse (Obv 5).
Both the OPs coin remnants, and that in the photo, are Obv 3, either N3 or N4
(w/o seeing the reverses, can't attribute it any further than that.
I'm guessing the Proof made for the set was made at a separate time in the year,
from the dies currently in use at that time.
The later 'collector' Proofs were made at the end of the year, with a unique set of obverse and reverse dies.
Well put! There where 8 proof sets made. These sets where given by Mr President jackson. Now if I was too track down the rest of the remaining set and punch the dummy right in the nuts that had the idea of taking a chunk..:/ I will be taking the first 500 people for beers and some more beers. I guess it was the 1800s and it is gold. and platinum but damn. Not to mention The DEXTER carvings. The Great DuPont Robbery😁
@Walkerguy21D said:
Interesting - the coin shown in the 'Proof set' is NOT an N-7.
The N-7 has a unique obverse (Obv 5).
Both the OPs coin remnants, and that in the photo, are Obv 3, either N3 or N4
(w/o seeing the reverses, can't attribute it any further than that.
I'm guessing the Proof made for the set was made at a separate time in the year,
from the dies currently in use at that time.
The later 'collector' Proofs were made at the end of the year, with a unique set of obverse and reverse dies.
@Walkerguy21D said:
Interesting - the coin shown in the 'Proof set' is NOT an N-7.
The N-7 has a unique obverse (Obv 5).
Both the OPs coin remnants, and that in the photo, are Obv 3, either N3 or N4
(w/o seeing the reverses, can't attribute it any further than that.
I'm guessing the Proof made for the set was made at a separate time in the year,
from the dies currently in use at that time.
The later 'collector' Proofs were made at the end of the year, with a unique set of obverse and reverse dies.
Hello guys and gals I have got some questions I have been studying this coin all day I'm not at all convinced this is a man made mint error.. The N3 die was damaged as in DIE CRACKS. That has been what has caused a piece to break off. If you study you will always have answers;) What do you think ?? LETS GET SOME THINKING# Possibilitys possibilities
Die cracks match broken piece ??
Your 1834 was broken in two well after it was in circulation
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Other than bearing the same date, that coin doesn't appear to have anything in common with the King of Siam example.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Would you be so kind Mr field let share whats different? Thanks much
No, I won’t, and my answer would be the same, even if you’d spelled my name correctly.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
If you are referring to the Newcomb-7 (Proof only) die variety,
there are 4 shown on PCGS CoinFacts (2 BN, 1 RB, 1 RD):
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1834-1c-newcomb-7-rd/397586
and add one more for the King of Siam example [if it was an N-7, but it's not, see @Walkerguy21D's posts] .
Your coin appears to have the same date position, but I'm sure there are other die markers
[see below - position of star 6 relative to coronet].
Agreed thank you for your inputs on my question. Appreciated
Mfeld my apologies on the typo.
Thank you.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Interesting - the coin shown in the 'Proof set' is NOT an N-7.
The N-7 has a unique obverse (Obv 5).
Both the OPs coin remnants, and that in the photo, are Obv 3, either N3 or N4
(w/o seeing the reverses, can't attribute it any further than that.
I'm guessing the Proof made for the set was made at a separate time in the year,
from the dies currently in use at that time.
The later 'collector' Proofs were made at the end of the year, with a unique set of obverse and reverse dies.
How many King of Siam proof 1834 cents are there? Just one. It came with the proof set originally.
There we mutiple dignitary presentation sets made at the same time. The crosslet 4 10s and the class 1 1804 dollars all stem from those sets
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Well put! There where 8 proof sets made. These sets where given by Mr President jackson. Now if I was too track down the rest of the remaining set and punch the dummy right in the nuts that had the idea of taking a chunk..:/ I will be taking the first 500 people for beers and some more beers. I guess it was the 1800s and it is gold. and platinum but damn. Not to mention The DEXTER carvings. The Great DuPont Robbery😁
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Yup, several presentation sets were made. That's irrelevant. Only 1 of them can be the 1834 specimen cent that was born with KOS. Don't overthink it.
Hello guys and gals I have got some questions I have been studying this coin all day I'm not at all convinced this is a man made mint error.. The N3 die was damaged as in DIE CRACKS. That has been what has caused a piece to break off. If you study you will always have answers;) What do you think ?? LETS GET SOME THINKING# Possibilitys possibilities
Die cracks match broken piece ??
You’re confusing die cracks with planchet cracks
Your 1834 was broken in two well after it was in circulation
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