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Is this a New undiscovered 1976 D RPM? .....Not listed on Vista or Wexlers

Kana808Kana808 Posts: 43 ✭✭
edited July 25, 2020 3:40AM in U.S. Coin Forum

So through out my search of $50 worth of pennies, I have come across a possible RPM. I say possible because I never seen a D so twisted on what looks like another D. what do you guys think submit it or forget it as a new discovery

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kana808Kana808 Posts: 43 ✭✭

    @MWallace Really PMD would cause the D to rotate that drastically?

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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2020 4:05AM

    The mm took a hit. Copper is relatively soft and it's easy to displace the metal. Notice that the raised D is smaller and lacks the serifs and Shape of the normal mm. For it to be a RPM, 2 different mm styles would have to have been used

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    Kana808Kana808 Posts: 43 ✭✭

    @Oldhoopster I see what you mean, I originally thought the same thing but to be shifted so bad that it cause the D's back to V in such a way you would thing the date its self would also display such a displacement of the number. but for the tails of the 9 and 7 to be at such a point and no marks around the D or the number. I know copper is soft but still to rotate a D that bad would take a good hit and I would think damages would be visible around the MM or affect the date in the same manor. but thanks for the input.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damaged in the mint Mark area

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The D was hit by something.

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    jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find it hard to believe that this miniscule mint mark was hit hard enough to move the metal so significantly, but not cause any other damage to the surrounding fields.

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Damaged in the mint Mark area

    And the date.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jerseycat101 said:
    I find it hard to believe that this miniscule mint mark was hit hard enough to move the metal so significantly, but not cause any other damage to the surrounding fields.

    I have seen where the mint mark was almost removed from a hit and the fields show no damage.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jerseycat101 said:
    I find it hard to believe that this miniscule mint mark was hit hard enough to move the metal so significantly, but not cause any other damage to the surrounding fields.

    if it helps, the mm and date are the high points for that area and the mm was not alone. the date was roughed up as well and a little bit of the visible rim was not left out of the party. :wink:

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pmd

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    Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭

    I'm not a penny guy, so I have no idea. But it looks odd to me, not sure a hit would make it look like that. If it was a dime I I would know where to send it, but there must be a penny guy out there who could settle this. Find out who, send it and wait.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't thin the D was turned so much as it was sliced. Yes, there was some metal movement, but the upper left and lower right were hit, giving the illusion that it is a twisted second mm. If you restored the missing/sliced areas, the D would look fairly normal.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said:
    The mm took a hit. Copper is relatively soft and it's easy to displace the metal. Notice that the raised D is smaller and lacks the serifs and Shape of the normal mm. For it to be a RPM, 2 different mm styles would have to have been used

    It doesn't have to be 2 different mint mark styles - that does sometimes happen, but is relatively uncommon. The mint mark just has to be punched more than once, most commonly with the same style.

    I agree with you that the mint mark on the OP's coin took a hit and metal got moved around - not an RPM, in this case.

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