Why the Exclusion of Kevin Brown and Curt Schilling on PSA Registry Rookie Player Sets?

DeutscherGeist

I went to the registry to look up how many rookie cards of each player there was since it seems like there are not many varieties. They were not on the registry! That surprises me since both players had their spotlight moments and compiled excellent careers in general.
If my assumption that not many rookie varieties exist of each player is correct, then that would put extra demand on the K Brown 1987 Donruss and C Schilling 1989 Donruss.

LarkinCollector

Sets aren't created automatically by PSA, someone has to request them. https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/setrequests

72skywalker

My neighbor works at ESPN in CT and tells me that he meets a lot of famous athletes. He said he met Schilling and he was the biggest jerk he ever met there.

He also told me that one time he was sitting in the café eating lunch when Arnold Palmer came up to ask if he could sit with him. The other time he went onto his office to find Jim Brown sitting in his chair looking at the Cleveland Browns stuff on the wall. He is a huge Cleveland Browns fan and it looks like the city of Cleveland threw up in his office.

DeutscherGeist

LarkinCollector,

I am surprised no one requested them if it does take one person to do it.

72skywalker,

Thanks for the insight. I guess this explains only partially why no one has requested a rookie player set. There has to be a Boston Red Sox fan out that must appreciate him for breaking the "curse."

As an aside, it's probably no surprise that Jim Abbott has been requested and is in the registry. I only hear good encounters regarding Abbott.

firstbase23

I believe Curt Schilling only has one card from 1989 so there really isn't a set to collect.

Matt

firstbase23

Same thing for Kevin Brown in 1987.

Matt

DeutscherGeist

Firstbase23,

One card is still something to collect. You either have the whole collection or you don't. It would be simple to complete.

Most 80s players have multiple rookie cards and sometimes that gets overwhelming especially when including the varieties such as Topps Tiffany, Fleer Glossy, and Score Glossy.

These Brown and Schilling cards would not even have an error version as with the 1989 UD Gary Sheffield with the upside down S, or a glossy version.

There is only one card for Schilling and Brown, how convenient.

NGS428

Same thing with Big Mac. Just the 1985 Topps... calm down all you 87 fans.

There are basically 0 rookie sets for players before 1981... 1 option = no set. Unless someone requests the set with the o-pee-chee.

LarkinCollector

@NGS428 said:
Same thing with Big Mac. Just the 1985 Topps... calm down all you 87 fans.

There are basically 0 rookie sets for players before 1981... 1 option = no set. Unless someone requests the set with the o-pee-chee.

So you're saying a 1 card set is not a set? Hmmm

DeutscherGeist

Big Mac does not have a rookie player set listed either. Fred McGriff does, but only two cards are in the collection, his 1986 Donruss and Leaf cards. I guess the 1987 Topps Traded and Tiffany version do not count. Big Mac's 1985 USA card is great, but it represents his USA playing days, not MLB. His 1987 cards are just as true rookies as his USA card that Topps also managed to print. If he was not part of the Olympic team, there would be no 1985 card. It is similar to Jim Abbott who has a 1988 USA card, but he has rookie cards in 1989, which happen to be all included in the player rookie registry. Strange that Abbott has his USA card included with cards of his MLB rookie season, but not McGwire.

Why wouldn't anyone request a player rookie set pre-1981 with the O-pee-chee card? We cannot pretend it does not exist. Is there a 1980 OPC Rickey Henderson?

I use the PSA registry of rookie player sets as a guide. I include Topps Tiffany and Glossy versions as must have cards of a player for my personal collecting goals.

Might there be a 1987 Leaf Kevin Brown?

mrmopar

For that matter, there is a back reversed version of the 87 Donruss Garvey, so I assume everyone in the set has one. I was told it was a factory set vs a pack pulled card. Holding the cards side by side with the same orientation, flip both over to the reverse side and one will have the stats on the left top and the other will have stats on the right top. Maybe PSA doesn't differentiate those though, as I wouldn't know either way.

NGS428

@LarkinCollector said:

@NGS428 said:
Same thing with Big Mac. Just the 1985 Topps... calm down all you 87 fans.

There are basically 0 rookie sets for players before 1981... 1 option = no set. Unless someone requests the set with the o-pee-chee.

So you're saying a 1 card set is not a set? Hmmm

I am.

NGS428

@DeutscherGeist said:
Big Mac does not have a rookie player set listed either. Fred McGriff does, but only two cards are in the collection, his 1986 Donruss and Leaf cards. I guess the 1987 Topps Traded and Tiffany version do not count. Big Mac's 1985 USA card is great, but it represents his USA playing days, not MLB. His 1987 cards are just as true rookies as his USA card that Topps also managed to print. If he was not part of the Olympic team, there would be no 1985 card. It is similar to Jim Abbott who has a 1988 USA card, but he has rookie cards in 1989, which happen to be all included in the player rookie registry. Strange that Abbott has his USA card included with cards of his MLB rookie season, but not McGwire.

Why wouldn't anyone request a player rookie set pre-1981 with the O-pee-chee card? We cannot pretend it does not exist. Is there a 1980 OPC Rickey Henderson?

I use the PSA registry of rookie player sets as a guide. I include Topps Tiffany and Glossy versions as must have cards of a player for my personal collecting goals.

Might there be a 1987 Leaf Kevin Brown?

There is a 1980 o-pee-chee set, but Ricky is not in it.

There are a few pre 81 sets, but just a handful.. Ryan and Ozzie Smith are 2 that come to mind as having a O-Pee-Chee and Topps 2 card set.

Kevin Brown is not in 87 Leaf.

I am not sure why Big Mac doesn’t have one. I think he should have a set with the 85 and 87 cards.

As far as the USA cards being rookie cards, I am on the fence on that one. Basically, they are considered rookie cards since s they were signed to a MLB contract (along with many other reasons).