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If there is a sudden market drop like in March, will gold and silver repeat a corresponding drop?

thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

In March gold and silver spot price went the way of the market.

I'm only asking because, imo, we are two weeks away from a sudden but probably less severe market drop.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In a panic flight to "liquidity" (e.g. dollars) almost all assets sell off, which means prices decline and that's deflationary

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    In a panic flight to "liquidity" (e.g. dollars) almost all assets sell off, which means prices decline and that's deflationary

    Agreed

  • isaiah58isaiah58 Posts: 385 ✭✭✭

    Many major Funds also invest in PM ETFs as part of their portfolio, purely as a hedge. Their logic is, sell the PM investments when the stock market falls. This infuses the fund to balance the losses out. Most funds are part of peoples 401k or IRA with regular deposits from their paycheck.

    My main funds are higher now than before the crash.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    In March gold and silver spot price went the way of the market.

    I'm only asking because, imo, we are two weeks away from a sudden but probably less severe market drop.

    I guess you were watching Cramer last night?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020 1:55PM

    If PM's are so closely related to stock price movement, why did they decline in prior years while equities gained? They are not related. You wanna know what PMs are gonna do? Watch what the FED does, not what it says. The FED has driven the rise in PMs.

    My guess is that when the equity bubble takes its next big hit, PMs will benefit. Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    In March gold and silver spot price went the way of the market.

    I'm only asking because, imo, we are two weeks away from a sudden but probably less severe market drop.

    I guess you were watching Cramer last night?

    No I wasn't, ...😂😂 But I did see a link to his prediction.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    Really? What about that MMT and QE and printing presses you rant about? Even jmski would challenge you on that.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    There's tons of cash on the sidelines, along with the 100's of tons of cash on the 10 yard, 20 yard, 30 yard, 40 yard and 50 yard lines as well, courtesy of the Fed.

    This market is going to equilibrium fairly soon.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020 9:11PM

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    Really? What about that MMT and QE and printing presses you rant about? Even jmski would challenge you on that.

    Finally admitting the FED is propping up the markets? Oooh, baby steps.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about that MMT and QE and printing presses you rant about? Even jmski would challenge you on that.

    There's not much cash on the sidelines because the Fed has put about 75 extra players on the field all at once. All of these new players don't have any time to sit on the sidelines - they can't make new jerseys as fast as the Fed is dumping cash into the system.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FED's cash infusions don't sit on the sideline. They are inserted directly at the pump station. Some assets are now being bought directly by the FED's trading desk. Pretty soon they will have their own stock exchange and financial news channel (other than MSNBC).

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020 12:22AM

    Back to the topic at hand, John Rubio explains it best: "When the broad markets tank, panicked investors tend to throw the undervalued babies out with the overvalued bathwater. In the flash-crash of last March, for instance, plunging stocks dragged gold along for the ride. Note gold’s dramatic recovery beginning in May of this year, and imagine what it will do if interest rates go negative and government deficits double from here."

    Now is a good time to stack cash. The next equity blowup should provide temporary PM buying opportunity.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    Really? What about that MMT and QE and printing presses you rant about? Even jmski would challenge you on that.

    Finally admitting the FED is propping up the markets? Oooh, baby steps.

    Ive stated this round of stimulus is much different than in 2008. Are your ears and eyes and mind really that closed?

    I believe i also stated there was going to be a huge equity rally....to which you laughed. Dont be so daft.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020 3:16AM

    @jmski52 said:
    Oh, and the old story about "cash on the sidelines" is BS. There is never any more cash on the sideline: For every asset sold to gain cash, an equal amount of cash was removed from the sideline to buy the asset.

    There's tons of cash on the sidelines

    There's not much cash on the sidelines

    Oh jmski.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020 7:29AM

    @cohodk said:

    I believe i also stated there was going to be a huge equity rally....to which you laughed. Dont be so daft.

    And I believe I have made it clear that price inflation goes where there is money supply inflation. Bubble, again? LOL

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    I believe i also stated there was going to be a huge equity rally....to which you laughed. Dont be so daft.

    And I believe I have made it clear that price inflation goes where there is money supply inflation. Bubble, again? LOL

    Bubbles are awesome. Sorry you missed out.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's amazingly awesome about Magic Money Tree is how it changes pricing of the things one can buy with money!

    Some price go up, some go way up!
    Some go down, some go way down!
    Some stay about the same, year in and yeat out!

    that's some magic money that affects products, services, investments all differently!

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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