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Is Juan Soto the next big thing?

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

Interesting article on Juan Soto. Could we be seeing his cards exploding out of sight in the future on the Mike Trout level?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/is-juan-soto-the-next-best-player-in-baseball/ar-BB16uiUw

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  • PatsGuy5000PatsGuy5000 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭

    Time will tell, lots of interest in Soto and Acuna cards.

  • mexpo75mexpo75 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2020 12:47PM

    With so, so many different Soto cards out there, which is the comparison the to most desirable Trout card. There are just so many different variations and subsets out there.

    PackManInNC
  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2020 1:19PM

    @mexpo75 said:
    With so, so many different Soto cards out there, which is the comparison the to most desirable Trout card. There are just so many different variations and subsets out there.

    Actually there's not. Especially when compared to all the other rookies from 2018. As for which parallels to go for, I'd say anything that comes up. I think a good chunk of the us300s & hmt55 parallels are locked up.

    In my opinion, the indy us300 is his best looking card and will be the one to own. Beautiful design that is complemented by team colors. Tough to beat, rarely come up these days and a ton of folks just waiting for the opportunity.

  • mexpo75mexpo75 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭✭

    What is indy?

    PackManInNC
  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2020 1:25PM

    Independence Day /76

    There's some jerk on IG that's hogged 15 of them last I heard...

    (

  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 907 ✭✭✭✭✭


    i got this card a couple of years ago.

  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭✭


    opcbaseball.com
  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    think he answered this again tonight. twice! 😉

  • dictoresnodictoresno Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where you been man? his prices have gone nothing but up!

    myslabs.to/smzcards

  • parthur1607parthur1607 Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    The Acuña/Soto battle is raging! Which one gets the start in right field at the all star game this year? And let’s not forget now they have mookie to contend with!

  • CentauriCentauri Posts: 126 ✭✭✭

    I have been looking for something to invest in for baseball cards - and I settled on buying a couple boxes of 2018 Update. Has Soto’s best RC, and one of Acuna’s rookies (maybe not the best). I’ll just put that on the shelf for a few years and if either player continues on this trajectory the value should be there.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Centauri said:
    I have been looking for something to invest in for baseball cards - and I settled on buying a couple boxes of 2018 Update. Has Soto’s best RC, and one of Acuna’s rookies (maybe not the best). I’ll just put that on the shelf for a few years and if either player continues on this trajectory the value should be there.

    and if all else fails...gleyber, albies, flaherty, buehler, meadows, bieber, ohtani, soroka & gurriel jr just to name a few.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's crazy what Soto stuff has done this past off-season. What I wouldn't give to be able to go back just 6 months and silently crush the Panini market.

    Arthur

  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    soto will get screwed this year because he is on a bad offensive team. he already has walked way too much. the only reason the dodgers pitched to him last night because they were well ahead. when games are close like the last three games were he was walked. acuna will have much better numbers and may not be a better player but it is because he has better hitters around him.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2021 10:14AM

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    What I wouldn't give to be able to go back just 6 months and silently crush the Panini market.

    Arthur

    ah yes, that was fun! i think all of this was less than $3k...😉

    and this is just what i have quick pics of! screw "crushing" the panini market. how about owning the panini market? 🤯

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @parthur1607 said:
    The Acuña/Soto battle is raging! Which one gets the start in right field at the all star game this year? And let’s not forget now they have mookie to contend with!

    there's a pretty funny discussion labeled "trout or soto" going on across the pond in the kiddie pool. straight comedy. of course all the people invested in trout are going trout. all the soto folks are going soto. naturally acuna and even tatis have been worked into the conversation.

    funny thing is that baseball desperately needs all of them right now. instead, these guys want to get a room together of likened peers and then fight about who's the best in an absolutely un-winable contest.

    "i wanna have a private party. can only be baseball fans & i only want my friends here who like the same things as i do. then. i want to fight them all and tell them how right i am knowing that tomorrow isn't promised to any of us, let alone a couple of players i've never even met".

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lwehlers said:
    soto will get screwed this year because he is on a bad offensive team. he already has walked way too much. the only reason the dodgers pitched to him last night because they were well ahead. when games are close like the last three games were he was walked. acuna will have much better numbers and may not be a better player but it is because he has better hitters around him.

    agree. still think the nats made one of the worst decisions ever by throwing their money into a declining strasburg instead of a heading into his prime rendon.

  • gobraves39401gobraves39401 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭

    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

  • VagabondVagabond Posts: 588 ✭✭✭✭

    I think Soto is awesome but when it comes to power, Acuna's got him. When he hits a bomb, it's gone. Plus, 50/50 season is always something that comes up with Acuna & not Soto. Soto is aggressive on the plate but Acuna is more well rounded at this moment offensively & defensively.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2021 2:14PM

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    He said Sid Bream !!!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jayhawke said:

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    He said Sid Bream !!!

    sure did.

    braves baseball, sid bream, ice cold coca~cola w bagel bites & those andy griffith episodes during rain delays on tbs were my babysitter growing up! if ya got a problem w that, i'll meet ya out in the parking lot in 5! 😉

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2021 3:03PM

    and '88 donruss might be the worst product ever, but it also had dale murphy on the box. it will always hold that special place in my heart, too!

    and i have crazy rare acuna hoards too.

    they didn't make mother's day bat down cards, right?

  • parthur1607parthur1607 Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:
    and '88 donruss might be the worst product ever, but it also had dale murphy on the box. it will always hold that special place in my heart, too!

    and i have crazy rare acuna hoards too.

    they didn't make mother's day bat down cards, right?

    You could start a charity organization just with the Acuña and Soto cards you own! I thought I was lucky to get two “bat down” cards in one case back in 2018. Man I wish I had bought 10 cases! I think it was less than $700. You can’t buy two hobby boxes for $700 now! Curious how many cases it took to pull 4 pink bat down cards. Nice collection for sure blurry!!!

  • parthur1607parthur1607 Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:
    and '88 donruss might be the worst product ever, but it also had dale murphy on the box. it will always hold that special place in my heart, too!

    and i have crazy rare acuna hoards too.

    they didn't make mother's day bat down cards, right?

    ^those are definitely rare. I have the Beckett price guide app specifically for looking up cards because there are so many variations/parallels. I got curious and tried to find those. Beckett doesn’t even have them listed.

    Are they 2018 series 2 #698? Believe me, I’m not doubting the authenticity of the card. I know they are real I’m just curious about them.

  • gobraves39401gobraves39401 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    Did you watch the game last night, legged out an infield routine play to shortstop, plus showed off that immense power. Still would take Acuna over Soto any day!!

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @parthur1607 said:

    @blurryface said:
    and '88 donruss might be the worst product ever, but it also had dale murphy on the box. it will always hold that special place in my heart, too!

    and i have crazy rare acuna hoards too.

    they didn't make mother's day bat down cards, right?

    ^those are definitely rare. I have the Beckett price guide app specifically for looking up cards because there are so many variations/parallels. I got curious and tried to find those. Beckett doesn’t even have them listed.

    Are they 2018 series 2 #698? Believe me, I’m not doubting the authenticity of the card. I know they are real I’m just curious about them.

    Those are Topps Mini Pinks. They're serial-numbered to /25 but because the set didn't sell out online (it was an On Demand release) only 12 of the 25 were made (1-5, 19-25) for all players. Same thing with the Green that are /10 (only 5 were printed for each player).

    The 2018 Topps Mini set is probably the most undervalued modern set there is. The base cards have a print run of 150. That's right, just 150 Bat Downs, compared to 22,000 regular size Bat Downs. These cards sell for peanuts. I was buying these packs off Blowout 10 at a time before they pulled them. That was a glorious time.

    Arthur

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^ reggies got it. even knows that while they are stamped to /25, there's actually only 12 of them. and 4 are shown. and obviously fully agree about how undervalued the minis in general are. for now. i also have a blue & a green.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2021 7:22PM

    @gobraves39401 said:

    @blurryface said:

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    acuna is good. the swagger you speak of is both good and bad though, imo. just wish he'd stop getting benched for not legging out his at bats. especially at the professional level and most certainly during the post season. he also has too much emphasis on the 40/40 thing. especially w the previous issues. that's a personal accolade and really does nothing for his team if they don't gel. he'll definitely sell a lot of jerseys though.

    as stated previously, it's impossible to compare the two on the baseball field. at the contract table though, acuna and albies for that fact, got took, imo. maybe he's just a lil slow upstairs which might explain the need for the previous benching issues? 😉

    and before anything is said, i grew up in sav, ga. and lived in atlanta for 3 years. lifelong braves fan and if sid bream could hustle theres no reason acuna shouldn't be. i'd rather have heart than swagger every day of the week.

    Did you watch the game last night, legged out an infield routine play to shortstop, plus showed off that immense power. Still would take Acuna over Soto any day!!

    missed this post earlier, but no. we were switching all day from the masters, braves and national games. i missed it live but watched the subsequent replays during the parts of the rest of the game. the hustle to run out that in field grounder was head turning! it's what a lot of folks wanted to see. he took off immediately instead of watching and shows tremendous signs of maturity...which is a scary thing for the rest of the league. even more impressive, imo, was tonight's 3 walks. might be a first. but if he can have smarter at bats and turn auto-outs into singles like the night before, he could start turning the tide on a lot of folks early opinions on him, this ones included!

  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2021 8:12AM

    Honestly I agree with @blurryface on not making the comparisons between Soto and Acuna. The only thing they really have in common is they are both young and exceptionally talented. It's like comparing Mantle or Mays to Ted Williams. Are you going to be mad owning cards of any of them ? I doubt it. These dudes are still kids, and have a lot of "work" to do over their career to get to the levels of the immortals. But If you want to compare, compare Acuna to Mantle and Soto to Williams. Acuna isn't even close to the level of hitter/plate discipline that Soto is at this stage. Soto looks like a generational talent in that regard and on Williams/Bonds level with pitch recognition. And Soto isn't even close to the level of pure athlete that Acuna is. Acuna is a total freak of nature with his combined speed and power at this age. Just grab a few cards of each that you can afford hope they both stay healthy and enjoy the ride or in Blurry's case just grab all the ones that someone else doesn't already own, lol.

    Jeff

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
    Collecting:
    post world war II HOF rookie
    76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
    Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
    successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @76collector said:
    Honestly I agree with @blurryface on not making the comparisons between Soto and Acuna. The only thing they really have in common is they are both young and exceptionally talented. It's like comparing Mantle or Mays to Ted Williams. Are you going to be mad owning cards of any of them ? I doubt it. These dudes are still kids, and have a lot of "work" to do over their career to get to the levels of the immortals. But If you want to compare, compare Acuna to Mantle and Soto to Williams. Acuna isn't even close to the level of hitter/plate discipline that Soto is at this stage. Soto looks like a generational talent in that regard and on Williams/Bonds level with pitch recognition. And Soto isn't even close to the level of pure athlete that Acuna is. Acuna is a total freak of nature with his combined speed and power at this age. Just grab a few cards of each that you can afford hope they both stay healthy and enjoy the ride or in Blurry's case just grab all the ones that someone else doesn't already own, lol.

    Jeff

    my man.

    zero need to pit them against each other. best thing to do is just sit back and enjoy the shows!

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2021 8:59AM

    @gobraves39401 said:
    Soto is good but he is all hitter, Ronald Acuna is the REAL DEAL. Power, steals, doubles runs. defense. Plus he just has that swagger that the kids love. He will be the next big thing in opinion. My money has been on him.

    after tonight 40/40 might be impossible.

    60/30 though? 😉

  • ringerringer Posts: 342 ✭✭✭

    It is no joke to project Acuna as greatest ever potential.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ringer said:
    It is no joke to project Acuna as greatest ever potential.

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