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Anyone randonly getting charged sales tax on coins on ebay?

zas107zas107 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭

Twice in the last week I was charged sales tax on coins on ebay. Not as a sellers mandate, but directly by ebay. I live in a state where coin sales are non-taxable (incidentally the coins that I purchased were also from states that are tax exempt for coins). They were listed in the correct category as well. Ebay customer service is zero help, was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it seems to be inconsistent for me but the internet sales tax is separate from state sales tax.

    not sure there is a way to be exempt 100% all the time via internet sales tax.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I get taxed on every coin purchase.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cheezhed said:
    I get taxed on every coin purchase.

    Me, too.

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    bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @cheezhed said:
    I get taxed on every coin purchase.

    Me, too.

    Me Three B)

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I live in New Hampshire. What's sales tax?

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My state, NC is tax exempt for coins, currency and bullion. They have been accurate not charging it on those, but other items however, they are right on it! :D

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would help if we knew what state you were in.

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    DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭

    If you live in a state where there should not be a tax on coins, I would double check recent laws. We were not automatically taxed for coins purchased over eBay or APMEX, for example, until recently. It is still not consistently applied, but getting there. It is easy and smooth now that the sales tax is automatically added on internet sales because previously, I think whenever sales tax was not collected, one had to keep in track of the purchases and just pay it when it comes time to file state taxes. Most people would not know to do this and even if an accountant was doing the taxes, s/he could not help unless the client produced the purchase receipts in the first place. I doubt accountants even ask their clients if they purchased anything out of state where taxes were not calculated. This makes the average person vulnerable. For example, if the person ran for Congress one day, the opponent can run ads that reveal s/he did not report/pay taxes. Ignorance of the law does not exonerate you from the law, right? I am just throwing it out there. I know discussion on taxes can get crazy.

    In the case of the OP, it may be a case where taxes are collected where it should not be. There are also numerous cases where taxes should be collected, but it falls through the cracks.

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    zas107zas107 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It would help if we knew what state you were in.

    In Pennsylvania

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    zas107zas107 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭

    I contacted ebay and they agreed that taxes should not have been collected, and they claim they will be refunded, but we shall see.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you're in a state with exemptions, you should mention that at time of purchase.
    Contact dealer and state it. THEN complete the purchase.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it is still intermittent for me. i may need to go through the invoices and see which states sales are coming from that incur tax.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @zas107 said:
    I contacted ebay and they agreed that taxes should not have been collected, and they claim they will be refunded, but we shall see.

    that is interesting and if true, means that the internet sales tax does NOT supersede a state's tax status for numismatics. i am under the impression this was not to be the case MAYBE unless someone had an RRMC.

    i just ran through my invoices and thankfully pp made it so you can zip right down the list of payments received and open/shut the invoices very quickly. no pages to load.

    i'm charged about 50% of the states although CA is a fair amount of the sales and they get taxed.

    odd as MI has one that was taxed and one that wasn't.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    latest tax-related message from eBay

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if you call the number in the site map, they will research your purchase and and state tax laws and send you a refund. it takes about a week to get your money back

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kansas woohoo! :*

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends on where the purchase is coming or going to...and sometimes what the item is. I occasionally win something from HA, if it is a coin, then no, if it is currency then yes.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    it seems to be inconsistent for me but the internet sales tax is separate from state sales tax.

    not sure there is a way to be exempt 100% all the time via internet sales tax.

    I don't understand this. What is an "Internet sales tax"? I've heard of states charging taxes on all sales to residents of that state, but nothing like you describe.

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    TomthecoinguyTomthecoinguy Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    it seems to be inconsistent for me but the internet sales tax is separate from state sales tax.

    not sure there is a way to be exempt 100% all the time via internet sales tax.

    If you are purchasing for resale, and you have the resale certificate on file with ebay, you are exempt. But if you want to buy for personal use, you need a second ebay account.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:
    I don't understand this. What is an "Internet sales tax"? I've heard of states charging taxes on all sales to residents of that state, but nothing like you describe.

    .
    latest tax-related message from eBay

    Internet sales tax = sales that were previously untaxed online that are NOW taxed. hope it helps.

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    I saw this on transactions myself this week for sales tax being charged on coins/numismatics to Pennsylvania. They should be exempt. I contacted them myself and supposedly they forwarded on the complaint to the sales tax team but I encourage everyone affected to contact them as well and let them know to fix it!

    ebay.com/help/home

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you complain loudly enough they may reverse it if you should not be taxed. Also a route around it is to have your state tax department send their tax department information on why you should not be taxed and to reverse it.

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @daltex said:
    I don't understand this. What is an "Internet sales tax"? I've heard of states charging taxes on all sales to residents of that state, but nothing like you describe.

    .
    latest tax-related message from eBay

    Internet sales tax = sales that were previously untaxed online that are NOW taxed. hope it helps.

    I used to live in a couple of those states. I was required to pay a use tax which was equivalent to my sales tax on my income tax returns.

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